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Will be making my own this year and was curious if this is a cross with any emoryi or is it just with the meahllmorum? Everyone I've seen advertised was crossed with meahllmorum.
Meahllmorum male pic

female corn pic (she's twice this size now)

>>Will be making my own this year and was curious if this is a cross with any emoryi or is it just with the meahllmorum? Everyone I've seen advertised was crossed with meahllmorum.
>>Meahllmorum male pic
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>>female corn pic (she's twice this size now)
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There realy hasn't been a distinction made between the three yet.
Emoryi, intermontana and meahllmorum.
Basically any of the three crossed with corns are considered the same.
I hope more of a distinction is made but it is a hard thing to do.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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The only 'distinction' i have seen is that some breeders will tell you which of the other guttata subspecies it was crossed with... that's about it. Meahllmorum rootbeers tend to be greyer than emoryi rootbeers, and I haven't seen many intermontana rootbeers...

>>The only 'distinction' i have seen is that some breeders will tell you which of the other guttata subspecies it was crossed with... that's about it. Meahllmorum rootbeers tend to be greyer than emoryi rootbeers, and I haven't seen many intermontana rootbeers...

I don't know about the greyer part.
This a meahllmorun/corn rootbeer

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Just out of curiosity.... what exactly makes the intermontana? And I seem to remember that they are illegal to collect now?
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.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
.1 MO Locale Black Ratsnake "Molly" (Flogging Molly)

"You saved my life! I'm gonna get you so many lizards!"

I was the one that named the rootbeer corns about ten years ago.I named them rootbeer cause thats exactly what they look like when they are the non amel version of a creamsicle.
I also produced anerys,hypos and ghosts that were still 50% emoryi.

Shannon

>>I was the one that named the rootbeer corns about ten years ago.I named them rootbeer cause thats exactly what they look like when they are the non amel version of a creamsicle.
>>I also produced anerys,hypos and ghosts that were still 50% emoryi.
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Hey Shannon,
When I ask Don S, about emoryi crosses such as snow corn/emoryis and anery corn/emoryis he always referrs me to you.
I was wondering...usually around in circles...LOL.. but anyway..
I was wondering if you had ever thought about names for the snows and anerys.
We've played around with names a little but at this time there are only three that have basically become synonomous with emoryi/corn mixes.
Rootbeer...normal emoryi/corn
creamsicle...amel emoryi/corn...as we know this was originally for the ones with the orange creamsicle look but has basically
been adopted for any amel emoryi/corns
and cinnamons for the hypo emoryi/corns
I use emoryi mainly because it is the easiest to type but generally mean any of the three since there hasn't been a distinction made in these crossed to corns.
Any thoughts, ideas or opinions on the whole subject would be GREATLY appreciated.
one of my hypos...'05 cinnamon

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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I call snows with Emory "snow cones."
I'm not sure if very many have been produced.
Here are two that I hatched out last summer.

Tim

Third Eye

>>I call snows with Emory "snow cones."
>>I'm not sure if very many have been produced.
>>Here are two that I hatched out last summer.
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>>Tim
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>>Third Eye

Hey Tim,
I remembered we had talked about a name for the snows but I just couldn't remember what it was. Getting senile.
I like "snow cones", seems like we had mentioned snowsicles as well.
I will make a mental note to remember snow cones...Of course, in my case a mental note is very likely to end up blank....lol
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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the motley shed lastnight. so before he goes blue again i'll snap another pic of him. they are really getting some orange on them from when i first got them.
~kin
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~Sober Serpents~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNAKIES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Corns:
.1 Normal (Gertrude) [just a pet...she started it all]
1. Orange normal (Romeo)
1.2 Miami Phase (Hector, Emily, Charlotte) thanks jeff!
2. Miami Phase part zigzag (Starkey, Mcvitty)[Emilys F2]
1. Amel het Blizzard (Dunesbury) .1 Blizzard (Detta)
1. Classic het Hypo, poss het Amel, Anery (Cobra)
1.1 Classics (Henry VIII, Cassy) [Emilys F1 babies]
.1 Deep Red Amel (Pepperoni) *1. Deep red amel coming soon!
1.1 Hypo zig zags poss HET Caramel (Bernard, Abegail)
.1 Hypo HET Stripe (Gracie Lou) 1. Hypo Stripe (Gideon)
1.1 Anery HET Motley (Lleroy, Persia)
.1 Candy Cane (Peaches HoneyBlossom) [Just a pet]
1. Abbotts Okeetee (Albert) [Charlottes son]
1.1 Snow (Crickle, Isis) .1 Green Snow (Maya)
1. Caramel poss HET Butter (Topher)
.1 Anery stripe (V) [husbands snake...he named it]
.1 Orange Reverse Okeetee (Lonna)
1.2 Bloodred HET Amel 1. Amel HET Bloodred

Others:
1.1 Black rats (Willard, Cecily)
1.1 Striped Cal Kings (Dweezil, Skunky)
1. High-white Reverse Spotted Cal King (Wishbone) *.1 soon!
.1 Albino Stripe Cal King (Eve)
.1 Bananna spotted/stripe cal king (Speckle) Thanks Jeff!!!
1.1 Thayeri (Giuseppe[MSP], Cheyenne)
1.1 Creamsicle HET Motley(Orangejello, Genevieve)
1. Creamsicle motley (no name) Thanks Jimmy!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~LEOPARD GECKOS~~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 Blizzard (Blitz)
.1? High yellow (no name)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~TURTLES~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 white cheeked mud (Opel)
.1 snapping turtle (no name, ideas welcome)

>>the motley shed lastnight. so before he goes blue again i'll snap another pic of him. they are really getting some orange on them from when i first got them.
>>~kin
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I can't wait to see pics !!!
I keep two of that motley cream's siblings.
I will have to get a couple of pictures to compare with yours...if I can find some batteries for my camera, too lazy to get back out now that I'm home from work...lol
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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well, here in VA its supposed to be in the upper 60s lower 70s tomorrow so i might be able to take some outdoor pics so you can see their real color! i still havent named the motley yet. i was thinking of something cutesy like mottles but that sounds dumb. then i was thinking of a spin-off of jimmy. but nothing came to mind. i want something interesting so it could have a cool name like its siblings i'm sure i have a while to think but its frustrating!
~kin
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~Sober Serpents~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNAKIES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Corns:
.1 Normal (Gertrude) [just a pet...she started it all]
1. Orange normal (Romeo)
1.2 Miami Phase (Hector, Emily, Charlotte) thanks jeff!
2. Miami Phase part zigzag (Starkey, Mcvitty)[Emilys F2]
1. Amel het Blizzard (Dunesbury) .1 Blizzard (Detta)
1. Classic het Hypo, poss het Amel, Anery (Cobra)
1.1 Classics (Henry VIII, Cassy) [Emilys F1 babies]
.1 Deep Red Amel (Pepperoni) *1. Deep red amel coming soon!
1.1 Hypo zig zags poss HET Caramel (Bernard, Abegail)
.1 Hypo HET Stripe (Gracie Lou) 1. Hypo Stripe (Gideon)
1.1 Anery HET Motley (Lleroy, Persia)
.1 Candy Cane (Peaches HoneyBlossom) [Just a pet]
1. Abbotts Okeetee (Albert) [Charlottes son]
1.1 Snow (Crickle, Isis) .1 Green Snow (Maya)
1. Caramel poss HET Butter (Topher)
.1 Anery stripe (V) [husbands snake...he named it]
.1 Orange Reverse Okeetee (Lonna)
1.2 Bloodred HET Amel 1. Amel HET Bloodred

Others:
1.1 Black rats (Willard, Cecily)
1.1 Striped Cal Kings (Dweezil, Skunky)
1. High-white Reverse Spotted Cal King (Wishbone) *.1 soon!
.1 Albino Stripe Cal King (Eve)
.1 Bananna spotted/stripe cal king (Speckle) Thanks Jeff!!!
1.1 Thayeri (Giuseppe[MSP], Cheyenne)
1.1 Creamsicle HET Motley(Orangejello, Genevieve)
1. Creamsicle motley (no name) Thanks Jimmy!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~LEOPARD GECKOS~~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 Blizzard (Blitz)
.1? High yellow (no name)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~TURTLES~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 white cheeked mud (Opel)
.1 snapping turtle (no name, ideas welcome)

Jimmy,

Well,I never ever used the term cream or sicle in any of the snakes I labled since there was no amel in my lines.I like the name snowsicle as it lets a person know that there was creamsicle (emoryi) in the mix.
With mine I just used the terms rootbeers,hypo rootbeers,anery rootbeers and ghost rootbeers.
It kept it simple and was what they were.
I always tried telling people that a rootbeer was just a non amel creamsicle.

Hope this helps.
Shannon

>>Jimmy,
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>>Well,I never ever used the term cream or sicle in any of the snakes I labled since there was no amel in my lines.I like the name snowsicle as it lets a person know that there was creamsicle (emoryi) in the mix.
>>With mine I just used the terms rootbeers,hypo rootbeers,anery rootbeers and ghost rootbeers.
>>It kept it simple and was what they were.
>>I always tried telling people that a rootbeer was just a non amel creamsicle.
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>>Hope this helps.
>>Shannon

Thanks a lot Shannon,
Sorry we got a little of track on the last few posts.
Gets kinda slow around here sometimes.

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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I know how it goes.LOL...
I will have to see if I still have a pic of one of the ghost rootbeers.Man they were killer.
Cool thing about all the ones I worked with was that they were still 50% both.I never back bred for anything.

Shannon

>>I know how it goes.LOL...
>>I will have to see if I still have a pic of one of the ghost rootbeers.Man they were killer.
>>Cool thing about all the ones I worked with was that they were still 50% both.I never back bred for anything.
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>>Shannon

I think most of my corn/emoryi mixes are 25 or 37 1/2% emoryi,
except my newest meahllmorun/crn rootbeer which is 50/50.
I have some nice '05 emoryis that I will be using to infuse more emoryi blood into my mixes when they are old enough.

I would love to see pics of the ghosts if you can locate them.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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