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I was hoping to eventually have dart frogs, but was thinking that I should get a starter frog first so I know how to keep their habitats under optimal conditions, and get all the heating under control. Is it wrong for me to think that two green eyed tree frogs in a 10g tank is right for this? They seem to be on the low range of frogs. Let me know, and thanks!

Could you post a pic of what exactly you mean by green eyed tree frogs? I did a search and came up with lots of different looking frogs. Most didn't seem to different then the red eyes, so I think its safe for me to say that a ten gallon would be too small for one frog, let alone two. If you want darts, they really aren't that hard. I hate the idea of a "practice frog". NO offense.

If you really want to get the humidity and stuff right, set up the tank for some darts and just leave out the frogs for a few months until you feel comfortable enough with the environment to actually place in the frogs.
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I think my frog owns a megaphone....

White's tree frogs : 1:1
Mantella viridis : 1:2

They're the little guys that sit in the top corners of the enclosures at pet stores. They're native to the southern states, my uncle has a bunch at his place in Florida.

In my defense, before you think i'm completely callous, I didn't mean starter frog as a 'something that I can get used to and get rid of'. In my experience, it's better to get something that has less husbandry requirements at first, then just jump in to an endangered frog, or something you need to feed freshly caught carp (you catch my drift) I just was thinking it'd be better to get some type of frog so I knew their mannerisms more at first, than just getting a tiny little guy that has to eat very specialized prey. I don't know as much about frogs as I do, say, geckos, snakes, or tortoises, which are what I already own. Don't think me retarded.

I only thought of frogs in the first place because I had some pothos left over from my crestie's cages, and figured i'd put it to good use. Also, seeing as the GTFs are nocturnal, just like all of my geckos. I'll deffinately look into some darts though, maybe into a hardier species at first.

Thanks guys, and please keep the posts comming, I want to make a decision!

You are in the same boat as me. I really wanted darts but got scared off by the culturing of fruit flies and tank requirements. I then got Red eyes.

What I have found is that depending on the type of darts you are wanting, there tanks are not that big of a deal. I would say since I have seen you ask many questions already (before starting or getting any frogs) that you would have no problem in doing darts straight away. The main problem people have is that they go get a frog then worry about how to house them etc.

I would say to figure out the type of dart you want (many great ones out there) but make sure to find out if they can be housed in a group or have to be kept only in a pair etc. Many of them you can have in a group only if there is just one female. The females will be aggressive towards each other. Then find out the tank requirements (dendroboard.com is a great site for dart help)and darts (in a pair) would usually be fine in a 10 gal. Groups would need a larger tank.

I'm doing a 42 gal hex tank and will likely be putting Leucs in it, I really wanted the Cobalt tincs but you can't do groups with them so maybe later I will do another tank. Even so I will be doing a practice 10 gal tank (to practice doing the Great Stuff foam method), the tank will not be a waste as it can house froglets and be used a hospital tank if needed.

So that would be my suggestion, do your research, pick a frog, make your tank and when it's ready (holding the temps and humidity) then get your frogs. Another good frog place is talkto.thefrog.org. There is a good source for buying frogs on there too, so once you decide on a frog ask if anyone has them available.