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Corn Snake Breeding

pixiefrog Jan 04, 2007 01:34 AM

i would like to know how big and how old dose a female corn have to be to breed thank
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tspuckler Jan 04, 2007 06:34 AM

That question does not have one, easy answer. Corn snakes (both males and females) have successfully reproduced at 9 months of age. In corn snakes, size determines the animal's ability to reproduce, not age. Therefore, if you can get the snakes up to size, they can breed, irregardless of their age.

Which brings the question "What size do they need to be?" Most breeders like their corn snakes to be 3 feet, though they can breed at smaller sizes than that.

The "size thing" has been a topic of much controversy in the Kingsnake Forum, as folks have bred Cal kings at 18 inches. It would be reasonable to think that corns could be bred at that size as well. So when you ask "how big and how old," the actual answer would not be the recommended size that most corn snakes breeders use as a rule-of-thumb (36 inches).

While there are many people who feel breeding snakes at a smaller size causes excessive stress and perhaps a shortened life, there are others who maintain that in the wild snakes breed at small sizes.

Tim
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phflame Jan 04, 2007 08:19 PM

the smaller sized cornsnakes? I know that the miami corns are supposed to max out at a smaller size than the okeetee corns, so would they be able to be bred at a smaller size? I have a ghost corn who is only 42 inches at the most, and is about 7 years old, so at 3 years, he would have been much shorter. Of course, he was a male, so the breeding size can be smaller.
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tspuckler Jan 04, 2007 09:12 PM

True. That's why there's no one, easy answer (like I said in my post) to the question, although the 3 foot length is a pretty standard rule-of-thumb that many breeders use.

I don't think Miami's are as popular as other morphs (mainly because the babies often prefer lizards). In addition "Keys Corns" probably reach a smaller overall adult size as Okeetees as well.

In all cases, female corns are ready to breed when they ovulate which (as I stated in my post) can happen at a variety of different sizes.

Here's a huge Miami corn that layed 42 eggs in one clutch for me last Summer.

Tim
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SNEAKYSERPENTS Jan 04, 2007 02:18 PM

some people use the guidelines of 3.
3 feet
300 grams
3 years old.
Hope this helps
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pixiefrog Jan 04, 2007 02:46 PM

>>some people use the guidelines of 3.
>>3 feet
>>300 grams
>>3 years old.
>>Hope this helps
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>>California

ok then thanks alot also my female corn is about a year and a half now and she just hit 3 feet last night when she sheeded is that about right ??
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1 snow corn (belly)
1 kenyan sand boa (tim)
1 pixie frog (bob)
1 fat cat (yashy)
Ryan Duggan

adamjeffery Jan 04, 2007 11:22 PM

sheds are always longer than the actual snake the stretch out when the snake is removing it. my guess is wait till next year to be safe
adam
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2.0 striped ghost corns
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1.3 ghost corns
0.1 bone white crosses
0.1 bloodred
0.1 striped albino corn
0.1 childrens python
0.1 albino nelsons
0.1 anery motley
0.1 albino banded cal king
0.1 normal corn het hypo,anery
1.0 jurassic milk
1.0 blizzard leo gecko
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SNEAKYSERPENTS Jan 05, 2007 12:01 AM

just wanted to mention that the three 3 rules is for females. Males can breed younger. The thought is, though that the younger the male is, the lower the fertility percentage or sperm count.
With females, early breeding can be dangerous and can stunt their growth. With males, it is not something that is dangerous for them. Although, some do believe that a corn that is never bred will grow larger than one that is bred or bred early. Not sure if that is proven or not, though.
My thoughts on the size of the female is, if you are in doubt, it is better to hold off for the next season. Better safe than sorry!!
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