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A Petco Boa (not safe after lunch)

AndrewFromSoCal Jan 04, 2007 05:04 PM

So I was taking my weekly tour of Petco today (it's seemingly daily as I set up my new Dart tank) and what do I see?

This is the 2nd dead animal i've found in their enclosures, mind you, at MID DAY. This animal has been dead for awhile, you may not be able to notice the depressions in it's skin, but they are deffinately there. Does anyone even buy from Petco any more?

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groundgeckofreak Jan 04, 2007 06:08 PM

That is a dead BALL PYTHON not BOA.
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AndrewFromSoCal Jan 05, 2007 01:13 AM

Cry more about it, I was late for work. I know it's a ball python.

Mithivh Jan 04, 2007 06:15 PM

Thats really aweful how they're being treated... You should tell a manager or even contact the local animal service people to let them know whats happening.

The Petco near my house actually treats their animals pretty well. I bought my leo from there just 3 days ago and she and her cage-buddies were healthy.

CSHerps Jan 07, 2007 03:25 AM

Thats why I'm proud to say that in the ten plus years Pet-Co has been in the area, I have not spent one dime in there. I have one about a miles from my house and still prefer to travel 20 to 30 miles to a quality pet store for supplies.
I could rant about Pet-Co and PetsMart all night long, but only will apon request.

AndrewFromSoCal Jan 07, 2007 01:47 PM

I choose rant. Go!

-ryan- Jan 09, 2007 12:37 PM

I work at a petsmart (actually, I'll only be working there until sunday). Really, my only complaint is that they don't take enough time choosing new employees.

Petsmart is setup for success. They have the stars aligned for great animal husbandry, however it's all in the hands of the employees. Some of my fellow employees are well-educated about animals (I'm the reptile 'expert' there), and one is actually a Vet-tech. We do a lot for the animals, but every once in a while someone slips through that just absolutely sucks. You know the type. They don't have any clue what they're talking about, and they take shortcuts when it comes to giving proper care.

Other than the employees, petsmart stores work with qualified vets to ensure that their animals are healthy before being shipped to stores, and they also provide veterinary treatment for any animals that are sick while they are in the stores (even if it means dropping $100 to help a $9 hamster). But, like I said before, it's all about the employees. If the managers just don't care enough, they won't take the animals to the vet. All sick animals are also isolated from healthy ones, and the quarantine procedures are strict, so long as the managers enforce them.

So don't blame the company, because I've worked there for long enough to know that the company cares about the animals. Blame the managers and the employees they hire. But let's face it, for $7 an hour it's hard to find qualified help. But take it from me, the procedures that petsmart sets forth are second to none. Also, contrary to popular belief, the company does not force stores to keep reptiles on calcisand or other potentially harmful substrates. In fact, the care books they provide the stores with say that calcium sand should NOT be used with anything other than adult animals for risk of impaction.

So just make sure the blame is placed where it should be, on incompetent managers. They have overall the most control over the health of the animals in their stores.

Also, I have talked with people at petco, and though it is not always abided by, there is a rule that says that they can ONLY feed frozen rodents to their reptiles, which means that a finicky snake like a young ball python will have a tough time indeed. Especially if the managers actually follow that rule. In that case, I wouldn't really be too suprised about the death of a ball python in one of their stores, but I also have recently come to believe that reptiles should not be sold in ANY pet stores. They are much more a hobby than a pet, and I think their sale should be limited to reptile specific shops. But that's just my opinion. Like I said, I've worked at one of the largest chains of petshops in the country, and I've also been to countless 'ma and pop' petshops, and it just doesn't appear as though a 'petshop' setting is suitable for reptiles.

CSHerps Jan 10, 2007 07:24 PM

I've spent about 4 hours trying to respond to this post. I'm fed up and this will be extemely shorter than my other two attempts and a little insite as to why I don't patronize Petco & PetsMart.
Ryan you stated your only complaint was in the selection of employees. The work force any retail store has and how they are taught and trained is a reflection on how a store operates. So in part PetCo & PetsMart are to blame.
With all due repect, I've been part of the NW Washington state pet industry for about 13 years. I've had employees start under me knowing nothing and later moving on to be great assets to the pet industry.
No offence but I'm curious to know how long you worked for PetsMart, if you have worked for any other pet store for a comparison, how your knowledge and skills are outside of reptiles, and why your leaving.
Ryan, you seem to have a a good head on your shoulders and I do respect your courage to post and defend PetsMart. You seem to have alot of passion behind your beliefs and opinions. I would encourage you to post some of them up for discussion or a friendly debate in the general forum.
I would love to chat alot more on this topic but I got animals that need my attention.

-ryan- Jan 10, 2007 08:18 PM

They do get a bad rap, and a lot of it is undeserved. I'll send you a PM so that we can discuss it in depth without taking up forum space.

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