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picked this up in a trade, seemed interesting to me. labelled as simply albino nelson's.
i know most milk guys are interested in clean, bold patterns, but i dig it.
would you guys call this a vanishing pattern individual?

Well,..these snakes are typically called "aberrant"snakes,rather than "vanishing pattern", as Nelson's Milk "aberrancies" tend to do several different things at the same time,often randomly....."bullseyes",partial striping, voids of color,blotching, and so on......a "vanishing pattern"(VP) such as what is seen in "Hondurans", is a gradually reduced fading of the pattern that is gradual.....hope this helped some..................Doug
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Nope,that snake is actuallyjust the opposite of a vanishing pattern.A vanishing pattern albino nelsoni (or anything for that matter) would have almost no black (white in amels) and your snake has more than normal.If your snake was non albino it would have tons of black so would be just the opposite of V.P.

V.P should be almost solid orange/red with nice little tight yellow bands and little slivers of white on each side.
Check out eastern indigos site.Robert has some killer V.P albino nelsoni.

Shannon

ah, i see. so red counts as the field color and black and yellow bands count as "pattern".

do these kind of aberrant characteristics breed true or do they tend to just pop up randomly?
that is, if i bred this lady to an albino male with a similar pattern would i expect a grab bag of albino nelson's or a clutch with reduced red/yellow?

Well,
There are many many aberrant lines out there of siniloans/nelsoni.Some have been proved out as simple recessive (like Robert Siebs and Bob Applegates) and some have been proved out as co-dominant (like mine).

Here is a picture of a pair of my nelsoni that are het albino.

here are some of the babies.only one albino has been produced so far out of these hets.

here is another clutch that was from the male aberrant het albino above to a normal female.

here is the albino aberrant that was produced from the above pair.

here is one of the cooler looking ones that has been produced by my line.

there are also patternless ones out there from Robert Sieb and Rick Millspaugh (sp?).
Heres a couple adults I had from Siebs line and a few babies I have produced.

heres another one of Siebs line V.P that throws patternless.

heres a couple babys produced from the above.

another baby from above adults.

and the best produced here.Sold this one though.

anyway,there are alot of cool looking aberrant and striped etc...siniloans and nelsoni out there.have fun.this is one I produced from Applegates line.

Shannon