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caecilians

frogman2424 Sep 20, 2003 05:07 PM

does anyone know where i could get a caecilian.i live in the mississauga area

Replies (7)

sevenofthorns Sep 20, 2003 08:28 PM

They're pretty nice aren't they? T hey get large and require warmer water though..and the nasty bites they can inflict are somewhat intimidating. I don't think anyone in Canada has any of them at the moment, but you can try looking for one in the US if you're willing to go through the USFW things.

>>does anyone know where i could get a caecilian.i live in the mississauga area
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Hope my opinions help,
Rob

frogman2424 Sep 23, 2003 09:17 PM

i thought caecilians had no mouths.do u now how much they ususaly cost.

sevenofthorns Sep 24, 2003 08:37 PM

Umm...no...caecillians have mouths...and teeth. They have short stubs for front legs, so they look like eels almost. THey require high temperatures (in contrast to newts and salamanders that require cold temperatures) and quite alot of space. If youc an find them in the US the price really varies from place to place. I've seen them around $50USD, seen one that was $30USD. It's alot of redtape to get it out of the US, so you're probably looking at around $100 to get one.

>>i thought caecilians had no mouths.do u now how much they ususaly cost.
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Hope my opinions help,
Rob

frogman2424 Oct 04, 2003 03:27 PM

how high does the tempture need to be?what size tank would a full grown one need

sevenofthorns Oct 05, 2003 07:00 PM

>>how high does the tempture need to be?what size tank would a full grown one need

I personally do not have much experience with them, but if you go to www.caudata.org and look on the forums I'm sure people there who have bred them will be able to help answer the more specific questions. I do know they require higher temps and a larger tank due to their size.
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Hope my opinions help,
Rob

Dunk Oct 13, 2003 10:07 AM

Hi,
Actually as far as I know caecilians don't have any front limbs, it sounds to me like you're talking about a siren or maybe an amphiuma, Rob. Caecilians may be aquatic or terrestrial depending on species. They tend to be quite secretive, hiding a lot, and eat earthworms and the like. I've always heard they are quite shy, the ones I dealt with in the early '80's were an aquatic species and always hid under rocks and wood in their aquarium (we called them "rubber eels" back then). I've never ever heard of them being aggressive or biting, we used to feed them frozen bloodworms but I presume they might eat a guppy/small fish if they were housed with them. I haven't seen them available in a long time, their export/import may be restricted, I'm not sure.
Hope this helps,
Dunk

sevenofthorns Oct 13, 2003 03:51 PM

Hi Dunk,

You're right..I was thinking of sirens. Sorry about that information. I still recommend going to caudata.org as people there have had experience with all kinds of amphibians.

Rob
>>Hi,
>>Actually as far as I know caecilians don't have any front limbs, it sounds to me like you're talking about a siren or maybe an amphiuma, Rob. Caecilians may be aquatic or terrestrial depending on species. They tend to be quite secretive, hiding a lot, and eat earthworms and the like. I've always heard they are quite shy, the ones I dealt with in the early '80's were an aquatic species and always hid under rocks and wood in their aquarium (we called them "rubber eels" back then). I've never ever heard of them being aggressive or biting, we used to feed them frozen bloodworms but I presume they might eat a guppy/small fish if they were housed with them. I haven't seen them available in a long time, their export/import may be restricted, I'm not sure.
>>Hope this helps,
>>Dunk

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