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A bit more obvious...

Ginter Jan 08, 2007 06:57 PM

Note that the neck markings are the same shape (little crosses) as a previous snake pictured but are framed out by different colored saddles.

Brumating snakes are so much easier to photograph.......

How cool would it be to see this snake while road crusing or better yet hiking!

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shannon brown Jan 08, 2007 08:29 PM

Nice looking Cape John.I would love to see that draped across a road.
Very cool,
Shannon

reako45 Jan 09, 2007 10:35 AM

Okay, that's a Cape Gopher (soory forgot the latin/scientific name). It'd be awesome to see one of those in it's own backyard, but until I win the lotto or my self published comic gets turned into a movie and have the millions to buy up a bunch of property south of the border, I'll just have to "settle" for San Diegos & Great Basins (which is fine by me). Great photo. Keep 'em comin'.

reako45

daveb Jan 09, 2007 05:32 PM

hey John,
glad to see you using that new computer! thanks for the excellent photos. the pine i got from you (J Schmitt) is doing great.

daveb

Ginter Jan 09, 2007 06:47 PM

Ok, so Black pines get a lot of crap for not being "Black"...forget it. That is a black snake!

A Biologist friend of mine and I went to see these guys in the wild a few years ago. As you would expect we saw alot of Black Pine habitat but no pines....not a surprise. I was amazed at the tiny range this ssp is confined to. Undoubtatly it is reduced even more now.

I am still waiting for a black or melanistic western Pit to be "discovered". Can you imagine an all black Sonoran or SD!

reako45 Jan 11, 2007 08:27 PM

... would be awesome. If it ever happened and it's a big "IF", I could see it happening w/ something like a San Diego or a Great Basin. Out here those Gopher ssp. seem to have overall darker patterns or the most black of any of the 5 CA Gopher ssp.

reako45

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