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in hondurans? ive searched and cant seem to find out if the trait is line bred or recessive or just chance.
thanx
adam
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>>in hondurans? ive searched and cant seem to find out if the trait is line bred or recessive or just chance.
>>thanx
>>adam
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>>hybrid breeders association
>>1.0 snow corns
>>1.0 albino corns
>>1.1 sinacorns
>>2.0 striped ghost corns
>>1.1 kenyan sand boas
>>1.1 mbk
>>1.3 ghost corns
>>0.1 bone white crosses
>>0.1 bloodred
>>0.1 striped albino corn
>>0.1 childrens python
>>0.1 albino nelsons
>>0.1 anery motley
>>0.1 albino banded cal king
>>0.1 normal corn het hypo,anery
>>1.0 jurassic milk
>>1.0 blizzard leo gecko
>>0.2 normal leo geckos
>>1.0 3 lined mud turtle

"tangerine" coloration,is a co-dominant trait,not recessive. If you bred one to a "tri-color", most (but not necessarily all)of the offspring would be intermediate between the two colors. "tangerine" to "Tangerine" most, if not all would be "tangerine"......How many generations of what were bred to make yours can also be a factor as well...........hope this helped...............Doug

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I would have to disagree ... I know of a tangerine/tricolor pairing which produces 90% light tricolors ... The other 10% usually seem to be tangerine and not intermediate.

I don't think that one ever prevails over the other with enough certainty to prove anything at all about the heriditary of these traits. If anything there are so many levels between tangerine and tricolor that you can never quite be sure what you even have to begin with.

For example you may have tricolors from a "semi-tangerine" line or tricolors from a "tangerine" line ... or vice versa. There are so many variations of tangerines and tricolors that I don't think its even possible anymore to do a test breeding project on this, unless you are very certain of their lineage. Some lines are obviously 100% tangerine or tricolor. But say you breed to different tricolor lines to the same tangerine .. If they truely are different lines then I'm sure you would have different outcomes in the offspring.

Well,your example of 90 or 95% doesn't hold much water either.It would depend on what that tri-color was produced from etc....

It really depends on the granparents etc...

Tangerine is a wild type as is tri-color,bi color etc....

Its like a box of chocolates and you could breed to screaming tangerines and kick off a few tri-colors or intermidiates.

Shannon

Shannon- that one is awesome.

>>I would have to disagree ... I know of a tangerine/tricolor pairing which produces 90% light tricolors ... The other 10% usually seem to be tangerine and not intermediate.
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>>I don't think that one ever prevails over the other with enough certainty to prove anything at all about the heriditary of these traits. If anything there are so many levels between tangerine and tricolor that you can never quite be sure what you even have to begin with.
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>>For example you may have tricolors from a "semi-tangerine" line or tricolors from a "tangerine" line ... or vice versa. There are so many variations of tangerines and tricolors that I don't think its even possible anymore to do a test breeding project on this, unless you are very certain of their lineage. Some lines are obviously 100% tangerine or tricolor. But say you breed to different tricolor lines to the same tangerine .. If they truely are different lines then I'm sure you would have different outcomes in the offspring.
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Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!

>>>>I would have to disagree ... I know of a tangerine/tricolor pairing which produces 90% light tricolors ... The other 10% usually seem to be tangerine and not intermediate.
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>>>>I don't think that one ever prevails over the other with enough certainty to prove anything at all about the heriditary of these traits. If anything there are so many levels between tangerine and tricolor that you can never quite be sure what you even have to begin with.
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>>>>For example you may have tricolors from a "semi-tangerine" line or tricolors from a "tangerine" line ... or vice versa. There are so many variations of tangerines and tricolors that I don't think its even possible anymore to do a test breeding project on this, unless you are very certain of their lineage. Some lines are obviously 100% tangerine or tricolor. But say you breed to different tricolor lines to the same tangerine .. If they truely are different lines then I'm sure you would have different outcomes in the offspring.
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>>Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!

True,....I'll back up a bit and say this, your statement about too many variables is all very true, I was keeping the explanation way too basic, I'll admit, but in any case his question about it being recessive or not was absolutely answered.........Also,as Shannon and I both said, the grandparents and so on play a very large role in the outcome of any offspring, and even then, there will be variables in the mix as we all know,........I was over-simplifying the difference so he could understand a little better......There are WAY too many different looks like you said to predict a specific color, I agree........different parents from different lines,= different babies, period. I think we all agree(LOL)............Doug
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Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!

hey thanks for thinkin that i cant understand the complicated version...lol
adam
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hybrid breeders association
1.0 snow corns
1.0 albino corns
1.1 sinacorns
2.0 striped ghost corns
1.1 kenyan sand boas
1.1 mbk
1.3 ghost corns
0.1 bone white crosses
0.1 bloodred
0.1 striped albino corn
0.1 childrens python
0.1 albino nelsons
0.1 anery motley
0.1 albino banded cal king
0.1 normal corn het hypo,anery
1.0 jurassic milk
1.0 blizzard leo gecko
0.2 normal leo geckos
1.0 3 lined mud turtle

i just couldnt find the info anywhere online as to this question. you have all answered my question. its greatly appreciated
adam
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hybrid breeders association
1.0 snow corns
1.0 albino corns
1.1 sinacorns
2.0 striped ghost corns
1.1 kenyan sand boas
1.1 mbk
1.3 ghost corns
0.1 bone white crosses
0.1 bloodred
0.1 striped albino corn
0.1 childrens python
0.1 albino nelsons
0.1 anery motley
0.1 albino banded cal king
0.1 normal corn het hypo,anery
1.0 jurassic milk
1.0 blizzard leo gecko
0.2 normal leo geckos
1.0 3 lined mud turtle