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I have two small greay tree frogs in a 30 gallon tank. I have had them for about a year. Since about a month ago the one has lost it's healthy look. It seems to be darker all of the time, somewhat like when they get cold, but not exactly. Also the sick one seems to be much smoother than it was and smoother than Grays typically look. it still has a good appetite, but it is more sluggish than the healthy one and does not move around near as much as it used to.

any opinions?

Thanks

This is a picture of it's healthy tank mate.

Well first off you should seperate them right away.

What are the temps and humidity readings day and night?
Have you added anything new to the tank recently?

Also, this forum runs really slow, there is another one I could suggest with breeders on it that would have a much better response, talkto.thefrog.org.

There is a lot of good frog info at http://allaboutfrogs.org/ also. I have two greys myself and have found some really great information (mostly at this site) but the FAQ part of allaboutfrogs has some medical questions answered.

Good luck, Diane

Two gray tree frogs and one japanese salamander share a half water half land 30 gallon with screen top. Also 3 local minows & 2 guppies in the water part. It's at room temp., and the humidity is about 70-80%. The occupants have all been together for a while. We did move last month, so the well water chemistry is probably different, but I have other frog tanks, etc. and everyone else is healthy.

The first thing is to move the sick frog into a hospital tank (bare minimums, hides, paper towel, raise the temps and keep it covered).

Then as far as the current setup, I would highly suggest removing the salamander. I would never recommend keeping two different species together, I have not heard of any people being able to keep different ones together for the normal lifespans of the animals. Each have their own bacterias, parasites, and pathogens that can be fine with their own but deadly with others. It usually takes time, it mixes in the habitat, into the water sources etc. Besides the fact that there can be stress from having to deal with others blocking access to water, hunting etc.

As far as the water I would suggest using a spring water if that's at all feasible. If not I would make sure at the very least you use a product to remove the chlorine, chloramine etc. You never know what you're getting with well waters.

After doing some research this also may help you (from the amphibiancare.com site) they are actually native to North America and don't need a humid habitat. You could drop the humidity down to around 50%. (Besides the higher humididty breeds all kinds of stuff)

The temps day should be in the 68-78 range so I would look into adding a supplemental heat source such as a heat lamp, or a higher wattage light, or in your case, with all the water you could add an underwater heater; that is what I have and it works beautifully for our colder months.

Thanks for your thoughts.

It could be that the humidity and/or the salamander are an issue.

Reference the water; well water and spring water are the same thing. No chlorine from Mother Nature.

Reference the temp; I would think that the Gray's could handle much lower than room temp, considering they come from my backyard in north eastern Maryland.

Well, is the grey tree frog doing any better?