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Has anyone heard of a striped pure kenyan? If anyone has could you explain to me how the morph is made and if it is compatible with other kenyan morphs and how much they usually sell for? Thanks alot!

Try these two links to posts from June
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1103141,1103141
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1103765,1103765
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Thanks,
-JC
rosyboas.to

1.1 San felipe (CB'93)
0.1 ghost San felipe (CB'98)
1.0 ghost San felipe (CB'03)
0.1 het ghost San felipe (CB'04)
1.0 ghost-line San felipe (CB'98)
1.1 hypo Borrego (CB'99)
1.1 albino Whitewater (CB'02)
1.1 double het for snow (CB'95)
1.0 snow rosy (CB'04)
1.1 Joshua Tree (CB'96)
1.0 Bagdad (CB'99)
1.1 Harquahala Mts. (CB'04)
1.1 Temecula albino (CB'02)
0.1 Temecula albino (CB'05)
1.1 Hemet anery (CB'05)
0.1 Boa constrictor (CB'92)

Okay thanks,I never knew that the genetic stripes werent pure.

The appearance of a stripe in Kenyan Sandboas was bred by selective breeding the most striped individuals to each other. It isn't a simple locus like albinism.
But it is derived totally from captive lines of Kenyans. There is no "impurity".
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Chris Harrison
San Antonio, Texas

What I met is that they have bred other species into the genetic stripe bloodlines from the links that "AncientDNA" Gave me. I know that their are Kenyans that do the stripe and that are from years of selective breeding. If you look at the second link the "AncientDNA" gave me you will see what I met.

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The striped phase from the second post is from a normal morph cross with a "rufescens phase" morph. The rufescens phase is the same species as a normal looking kenyan just from a different locality.

PICTURES: 1st and 3rd are of the "pure" rufescen phase locality. The 2nd is a 75% rufescen phase.

Chris

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Christopher E. Smith
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Looking at those rufescens makes me wonder what an amel would look like.

Would they have orange with a peppering of pink spots?
Or is there a normal spotted pattern under the rufescens hypermelanism that would show through? If that was the case, they would look similar to normal amels.

I suspect the former case, i.e. that the rufescens morph is a result of the disruption of the normal brown/black spotting and that this gene would still control pattern even in the absence of melanin.
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Chris Harrison
San Antonio, Texas

I apologize I did not know I thought that rufescens were another eryx species.So they are just a locale or morph?

Actually, I am working towards the axanthic "granite" Rufescen's...Black and White speckled(or Salt and Peppers)!!! I imagine that they will be more visibly stunning, but if you crossed Rufesen's with some of Saving Grace's amel's, now they may be pretty hot.

Brian Emmanuel had some Ruffies het for amel some time ago, but did not produce any amelanistic Rufescen's. I believe he has since sold all of his Rufescen's to Mark Bell.

I think the rufescens phase will eventually bring forth some very interesting morphs. I will be breeding them into Amel het anery this season...and snows in 08'.

Looking forward to see what the first amel, anery, and snow crosses will look like.

Chris
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