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What will pinstripes be going for this year?

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Brian A.

$800.00 to $1,000.00
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And how do you know that? Did you check your crystal ball? If so, can you please post the FL lotto # s for me...
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Jon Dvoretz
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Speculation my friend. See what happens!
A question was asked I responded.....It is no more than a spider.
What is your price?
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"Speculation my friend. See what happens!
A question was asked I responded.....It is no more than a spider.
What is your price?"

First off i dont play the "what if" game... I live in the world of what is. Why speculate when you really have no idea as to what the price will be, why not say "see what happens" That would have been a honest answer. It just annoys me to see people who "think they know" but really do not. Dont make up an answer just to answer.

To answer you question as to "my price" it would have been... Somewhere around current market value dependant on certain cituations... (ex. Another super produced, heavy production, etc.)

Think this qoute will help with a lot of these kind of responses
"The dumbest people I know are those who know it all"
(Malcolm Forbes)

Hope this helps =)
JOn
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Jon Dvoretz
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Where is the photo of a SUPER?
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Brian B has it... If in fact it is a super, he has not released becuase he want to make sure fom what i understand.
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Jon Dvoretz
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I just love it when the people that have nothing invested in a particular morph chime right in and speculate what they think the market will be on that morph the next year? Thanks alot Rick that comment really helps anyone with early clutches of pins to try and set the market for this year. And we wonder why this market is takeing a hit like it is.

GREAT POST!
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Jon Dvoretz
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LMAO!!!! Yes it was a very well written reply
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Damian Macioce
www.strongholdreptiles.com

The correct answer is... No one really knows for sure. If Brian does produce another "super" then they will stay the same price or increase, or just the females may go up. If he dosent they may still stay the same or go down.

You really shouldnt ask these questions on here, if anyone knew for sure they would be way ahead of the game and wouldnt share the info anyways =)

Best way... Watch KS see how many are posted... If theres a lot this time of year chances are they will go down. If theres not to many posted chances are they will stay close to the current price. Supply and demand
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Jon Dvoretz
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I see spiders @ $500.00. Correction my spiders!!!!!!!
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RicK & Caitlyn @ Ball Boutique, Inc.

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This is easy, i can just use all my fav quotes to answer all your replies...

'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt"

A real question to you...

1. Why would you want to hurt your own investments?
2. Dont you feel your hard work at breeding, caring for them is worth more?

=)
Jon
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Jon Dvoretz
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Sure Jon but I paid $13,500.00 for my male and market crashed! $5000.00 that summer! I don't cry just follow the market! Quote all you want! 2006 were $800.00 .....go figure! I did not crash them. They do not produce a super!
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We were talking about Pins, spider have nothing to do with pins, i really do not know why you even brought up spiders???
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Jon Dvoretz
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LOL

.........lucky to get the $500 for spiders.......

........don't worry........market isn't done tanking yet......

........so work overtime at a real job and save all the cash.....buyers market is gonna still be there........

.......super......!

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.and 50 still growong and growing..........

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.on a side note...has anyone tasted these snakes yet?.......with and without BBQ sauce....??

Thanxx
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.............does that mean I shouldn't hang pest strips in my room?

There is a super pinstripe? Any pics of it somewhere, how did I miss seeing that!
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Nita Hamilton
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Brian B may have produced one, but he is waiting to do it again to be sure...
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Jon Dvoretz
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Cool! That is something I would love to see!
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Nita Hamilton
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Me too! I have heard they are like a pastel to a super pastel....
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Jon Dvoretz
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I have been to Brians it is nice
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Damian Macioce
www.strongholdreptiles.com

i think it is irresponsible to "price" animals that you don't have. if someone has had a clutch of 2007 Pins, they can price them as market determines, or moronically, i suppose.

but to say 2007 Pins will be "$X" when you DON'T HAVE any 2007 Pins is irresponsible and bad for the industry and hobby.
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robyn@proexotics.com

Pro Exotics Reptiles

Let us see what happens!
I have none but was told $1,000.00 for a 2006!
Hell, what do I know LOL
I will get one at that price....
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"Let us see what happens!
I have none but was told $1,000.00 for a 2006!
Hell, what do I know LOL
I will get one at that price...."

To answer your "Hell,what do i know" question the answer would be obviously nothing =)
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Jon Dvoretz
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Ive also heard what prices are going to be this year but that doesnt make it fact????
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Damian Macioce
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Nope!
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Very well put ! There are a lot of variables to be considered,every breeder will not have high yields.Just for example my male spider is not breeding for me this year,last year I couldnt stop him.The price will be set by the numbers produced and the buyers willing to spend.Terry

From what i have heard a LOT of breeders are having a very slow year ...
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Jon Dvoretz
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There will be LOTS of Pins this year. Great morph!

A 1000 seems pretty low (i'd say 2000 next summer would be understandable), but maybe by late next year it could happen...

get $500 for your spiders then they must suck! Amen to you Jon and the rest of you that feel the way he does, we just need to wait and see!
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Greg Power
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candidate. LOL I'm amazed at how some people can get their panties all up on a wad over such silly things. Oh and to answer the question, they will sell for whatever someone is willing to pay at ANY given time.
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Jay A. Martin
Jay Martin Reptiles

Do I hear an Amen?
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I don't see your prediction being that far off sounds pretty logical if you ask me just look into the past to see the future.
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Vince Pramuk

There are a lot of good points brought out in this thread and the truth is no one knows for sure - if you ask for a reasonable prediction - then just as in anything people must look at the past to come to a reasonable conclusion as to what may transpire - that is just part the deal. Whether you are doing it for the pure fun or as a business you must keep your eye on whats down the road and make your decisions based on what you've seen. Market predictions, although we all hate them are par for the course and essential.

For pins this could go many ways - I certainly don't see $1000 being a dooms day prediction - they were already being sold at $2K-$3K this season and a drop like that is not by any means unheard of or unreasonable. There have been many people that have been silently breeding a lot of pins the past few years - they've managed to keep it pretty quiet and it's kept the price up, however those pins are sold and now reproducing - but with the pin being at a reasonably low price there will be lots of people looking to purchase also. Whether or not a super will save the price - I don't know - it will have to be one hell of a gorgeous super - because even the coveted white snake couldn't keep the mojave price from slipping and I don't see an increase happening - maybe slightly for females.

Personally, I think this will be a good year for pins - whether you are buying or selling. It may be the last good year or there may be one or two left - but it will be a good one. And that is my prediction for 07.
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Tosha

I have to agree with Jay...there's no way to predict, it's what people are willing to pay, and coming from someone who paid 2750 for a Mojave and seen them going for 800 in just 6 months I can promise you...I wouldn't pay much. Yeah, it's a beautiful morph, all the combos are great, and I will have one eventually, but 2k is 2k I can wait. I'm sorry for the people that do it for a living, and don't want to offend anybody, but it's just part of any business.
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Dale....dgoins222@yahoo.com

Brother 2 years ago I paid 7500 for a 600 gram male mojave and was going to use him within a month or so to breed and struck out miserably. He bred but I think I was to late on all of my females, that was my first year breeding. Then the next year the price on mojos fell through the floor then last years prices (06) but Im not complaining my stuff is self sustaining and keeping me happy.
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Damian Macioce
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2005 Pieds $3000-4500

2006 Pieds $2000-3000

I think the co-dom market will fall further and faster than that of the recessive market.....and the recessive market is falling faster than I ever expected. Good luck. Quit griping. Sell your balls and buy some chondros. Love your snakes.

Brandon Osborne

Hello,

I don't see how someone can bring the market down or affect the market in a negative way just by posting his/her opinion on the price of a given commodity. Some of the people in here act like just talking about the market adversely affects the market. As far as prices go for this year all I have to say is I think Rick is almost as right as rain. Regardless of what people are asking on K.S. or other classified ads for their 06' Pinstripes, the market right now says you can expect to get about $1500 for either sex. So if 06' are going for about $1500 in 07' then Its not ridiculous to think that $1000 is way out of line for 07' newborns. Just my $02 cents and yes I have a number of Pinstripes. TAKE CARE AND WISH ALL A GREAT BREEDING SEASON. Ciao. Andrew