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I would like to have an anery brb but they seem to be pretty expensive (like $6-7,000) for someone who isn't keeping them to make money but still I have to get one. Would it be better to just fork it up or get a possible het? What would be my chances of getting an anery baby in a litter if I had a 50% or 66% het. male carrying it. You don't have to do the punnet square but just percentages for the aneries? What makes it 50 or 66%. Double het. means carrying albino and anery? What is triple het? Good idea, or not? It justs gives me something to look forward to so waiting a few years would be no problem. If I go the route to get the possibles, should I get just a male or a pair? Even if the percentages are low with just getting a male, I have willing females. Sorry if some of the terms are wrong just correct them and I will learn. I know this is the wrong forum but this is a rainbow question and you are always on the genetics forum, but u tha man!! Thanks and all thoughts are appreciated.
Bob

First off, Anery in BRB is a thought to be a recessive trait. I don't think it's been 100% proven out yet but very probably is recessive. So, if you want to make one, both parents must carry at least one anery gene. Possible hets are just that...POSSIBLE.
While not a bad way to get in cheaper, you are rolling the dice. If you bought a pair of 50% het animals, you'd have a 25% cahnce of getting lucky and having both be het. You'd also have that same 25% chance of both NOT being het. The remaining 50% being one is het and the other not het. You guess which one. IMO, posssible hets are useless UNLESS you either get lucky and both are het OR you have a known animal to pair them with. For example, a het anery male and 3 possible het anery females would be a good group. Even if only one of the females proved, you'd have anery's (and all the rest would be possibles) with first breeding. For myself I don't like making any more "possibles" than I have to in producing the end breeder animal I want. For my anery project, I bit the bullet and got an anery and a het to breed together. Unfortunately, it's a female anery and a het male, would rather it was the other way around but I'll just have to wait for the male. One male could be outcrossed to MANY females to strengthen the breeding pool.

Double het refers to being het for two morphs. So far in BRB's it means Het Hypo (also a recessive trait in BRB's and also het for anery. To my knowledge there are no Triple het BRB's. Heck, even the existence of an albino BRB is subject for a heated debate.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, selectively bred from good stock)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
12.25 BRB
12.14 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I appreciate the enlightenment on the subject. Mike told me about some books including "Designer Morphs" and they have an albino brb (t- mutation) on page 297 but says PROVEN RECESSIVE COLOR MUTATION. Two pages later they have the male Calico/Pied brb and it is UNPROVEN COLOR AND PATTERN MUTATION. I don't want to step on anybody's toes but both pictures are animals from Outback Reptiles/ Ian G. He has a lot of pictures in the book but couldn't find him on ks but I found Mike's hypos too (congrats Mike on being feature). Why would this start a heated debate since the book says it is proven. No problem if you send your reply privately. Thanks
Bob

It may very well be proven but have you ever seen an albino BRB for sale...I have not! Seen albino CRB's for sale (rubio) and I do believe Ian may very well have albino BRB's. Just none for sale (yet). All I need is one male

The debate would more be about the proven part, takes several trials to prove out any given trait.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, selectively bred from good stock)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
12.25 BRB
12.14 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats