Can I keep two juvenile ATBs in a large cage? They are both 06 babies, one is a couple months older. Can I keep them together in the same cage until they are older? Like 8-12 months old.
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Can I keep two juvenile ATBs in a large cage? They are both 06 babies, one is a couple months older. Can I keep them together in the same cage until they are older? Like 8-12 months old.
>>>Can I keep two juvenile ATBs in a large cage? They are both 06 babies, one is a couple months older. Can I keep them together in the same cage until they are older? Like 8-12 months old.
I recommend that you quarantine these animals first. I also wouldn’t recommend that you keep them together as feeding two treeboas in the same cage has many downfalls and one snake can be constricted by the other in a food battle, or by simple mistaken identity, because the snake that already ate still smells of prey. I recommend that you only keep adult sized animals together and then only for breeding purposes. There are many other downsides to keeping multiple animals in one enclosure and they include, but are not limited to the sharing of sickness/disease/parasites, it can be hard to keep track of who’s done what (is it your turd or yours? shed?) if you get a parasite fecal, now both animals must be treated, competition for basking/hiding spots. I think your best option is to keep then separate and use Rubbermaid or Sterilite totes and replace them, since they are cheap, as they grow and need larger enclosures.
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feeding two atb's in the same cage is a pita.
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Jason

Well, my reason for wanting to this is because I haven't got room for two display cages, and I don't like the idea of having a gorgeous ATB in a plastic tub on the floor. I currently have a patternless red and was hoping to get a patternless yellow. I don't have a lot of herps so you can imagine why I want to put them on display 
IF I have them both vet checked and fecalled, and provide adequate basking, water, perches, etc, and feed them in separate bins, would it be okay? Or is still possible that one will eat the other?
Should I just avoid getting the yellow for the moment and just put the red one in the cage?
Thanks 
>>>Well, my reason for wanting to this is because I haven't got room for two display cages, and I don't like the idea of having a gorgeous ATB in a plastic tub on the floor. I currently have a patternless red and was hoping to get a patternless yellow. I don't have a lot of herps so you can imagine why I want to put them on display>>>
Sounds like you may not have enough room for two snakes then.
>>>IF I have them both vet checked and fecalled, and provide adequate basking, water, perches, etc, and feed them in separate bins, would it be okay? Or is still possible that one will eat the other?>>>
Feeding in an ATB in a seperate bin/tote is far easier said than done. In fact, most treeboa keepers give up on that idea really fast. I can't say that it hasn't been done (keeping ATBs together), but with someone of your experience there are too many good reasons not to. I know what these animals cost and can mean to a keeper. My red and patternless bicolors were not easy to come by or cheap for that matter and I wouldn't chose put them in a risky situation. You should set yourself up to have little or no possibility for bad outcomes, as you will fully reap the benefits of success.
>>>Should I just avoid getting the yellow for the moment and just put the red one in the cage?>>>
This sounds like a better idea... Or just pick the one snake you chose to display over the other until time/space/money/whatever permits you to have two display enclosures.
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Why are they difficult to feed in a separate area? I've been able to do so so far, my Red is pretty docile.
Is there a reason other than aggression that it is not practical?
I remember back when I used to feed tree boas in separate enclosures.
I didn't quit so much because of aggression, but of how well they hold on to things if they decide they want to hang out on their perch and whatnot.
This is easy while they're small, but as they grow older they start realizing they can musk, and will start doing so anytime a hand enters a cage.
Now I can't imagine trying to go in after my 6.5' female just to drag her out to feed. My olfactory senses prefer to leave her where she's at for feeding...
Everyone else has given the standard answers for why it is not advisable and I am going to agree, especially about the defecation issue. I prefer to have my animals completely cleared out before I feed them again. The other main issue I have is stress. If one is naturally a little shyer than the other and they are constantly all over each other (yes, this happens even in a gargantuan cage) this could cause loss of appetite, regurge, etc.
Ok, with that said, if you have two healthy animals (vet-checked) that are feeding, defecating and shedding flawlessly and that have bold and outgoing personalities, it's worth a try housing them together in a spacious display cage with LOTS of options for heating, cooling and hiding. If you choose to go this route, I would STRONGLY suggest that you get to know both animals intimately over the course of at least 60 days in their own tubs and make sure they both meet all the above criteria. I would then try the introductions about 3 days after they have both eaten (less chance of a stress regurge or attack from hunger) and watch them VERY closely for the first few days. It can be done very successfully, and with the two animals you are describing, it would be a kick-butt display in a well-planted terrarium. Just don't rush into anything until you have your animals all dialed in and you think they can handle being together. The two gardens in the picture were housed together as juvies for about a year but now live in separate enclosures.
Billy
>>Can I keep two juvenile ATBs in a large cage? They are both 06 babies, one is a couple months older. Can I keep them together in the same cage until they are older? Like 8-12 months old.

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