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Please help me sort out specie's ?

molurusx3 Jan 14, 2007 10:13 PM

I'm getting very confused at the moment,

i have the cites paperwork for 3 of my python's and they all say that each animal is P.m.molurus.

I have looked over the net countless times and still can't work out the difference with the list below.

indian python,
ceylonese python, dark/light phase ?
pimburma,

can anybody tell me "true" way to identify between these sub-species, as my 3 yr old male and 18 mth old female "Look-like" indian/ceylonese light phase. my 3 yr old female "Look's like" a pimbura in body color.
please check out my pictures in the burmese python photo gallery and check out my other pictures of my so-called m.molurus in my personal folder.

cheer's molurusx3

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19 years in the hobbie/business.
in my personal collection at present;
1:2 p.m.molurus
1:2 chondro python viridis
1:1 dasypeltis medici

Replies (6)

snakito Jan 14, 2007 10:28 PM

well i am by far a expert when it comes to this but if i remember right sri lanken/cylonese/pimbura are the same thing.

Kelly_Haller Jan 15, 2007 01:48 AM

are the same subspecies. The India and the Sri Lanka forms are both considered P. molurus molurus. Specimens from Sri Lanka (formerly Ceylon) were considered a separate subspecies, P. m. pimbura many years ago, but are now considered the same subspecies as the indian because even though there are significant pattern and color differences, there are no distinct morphological differences that clearly distinguish the two from each other.
It must be remembered that Sri Lanka has been separated from Indian for only about 12,000 to 15,000 years. This was after the last major glacial period ended and the land bridge was flooded between these two land masses. Even though totally isolated, this has been too short of a time period for these two populations to evolve morphologically into distinctly separate forms. The main visual differences with Sri Lanka specimens is a lack of an arrow marking on the top of the head, and they also show the "H" pattern markings on many of the blotches down the back. Some do not show these characteristics in a well defined manner, but if they do show them, you will know for sure that they are of Sri Lanka origin. If they don't clearly show one or both of these traits, it can be very difficult to distinguish them from indian pythons. The female Sri Lanka specimen in the photo below shows both of these traits very well.

Kelly

molurusx3 Jan 15, 2007 10:25 AM

Kelly what you say about these three.

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19 years in the hobbie/business.
in my personal collection at present;
1:2 p.m.molurus
1:2 chondro python viridis
1:1 dasypeltis medici

Kelly_Haller Jan 15, 2007 11:27 PM

it appears that the first and third photos represent specimens of Indian or Pakistan origin. The python in the center photo appears to be of Sri Lanka origin. The python in the first photo is outstanding, do you have any background history on it?

Kelly

molurusx3 Jan 16, 2007 08:29 AM

i think you have asked me about this animal before?

i bought a pair on 11/12/2006. at a reptile show in Houten "holland"
i sold the male about 3 month's after bringing them back in to the uk as i only wanted another female.

Hatch date; 03/12/2005 cert# CZ/MSK/174/2005
Breeder; Rettili srl
Via Corridoni,
3 - 21100 VARESE italy,
tel/Fax 0332 310468
e-mail; rettili@skylink.it
P.IVA 02742510122

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19 years in the hobbie/business.
in my personal collection at present;
1:2 p.m.molurus
1:2 chondro python viridis
1:1 dasypeltis medici

molurusx3 Jan 16, 2007 10:42 PM

I have video's of all 3 animal's on youtube.
just type in "indian python eating" to get all 3.

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19 years in the hobbie/business.
in my personal collection at present;
1:2 p.m.molurus
1:2 chondro python viridis
1:1 dasypeltis medici

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