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I have been offered some Guyanas as part of a trade. I cannot find very much info on them. Are they much different to house than Brazilians (aside from the obvious size difference)?

Any tips, help, links and/or pics appreciated!!

Thanks,
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Diego

Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
SNAKES
2.4.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
2.1.0 Baird's Rat Snakes
1.2.0 Trans-Pecos Rat Snakes
0.1.0 Trinket Rat Snake
0.1.0 Amel Pacific Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Het Amel San Diego Gopher Snake
3.1.0 Sonoran Gopher Snakes
0.1.0 Amel Sonoran Gopher Snakes
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
2.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (1.1 River Road, 1.0 Non-Locale Specific)
0.2.0 California Kingsnakes
0.1.0 Thayeri Kingsnake
0.1.0 Florida Kingsnake
1.1.0 Boa Constrictors
0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
1.1.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Woma Python
1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
1.1.0 Western Hognose
1.0.0 Blacktail Cribo

LIZARDS
1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
0.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
1.3.0 Leopard Geckos
1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
1.1.0 Chuckwalla
0.1.0 Banded Gecko

FROGS
2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
1.0.1 Green Tree Frogs
1.0.0 Bubbling Kassina
1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs
0.0.2 Gold Frogs

Diego,
..I kept my Guyanan Rainbows just like I keep other smaller Rainbow subspecies. Temperatures from low 70s at one end of the cage to low 80s at the other end. Humidity needs to be kept above 50% most of the time. A plastic sweater size storage box makes an ideal cage for them. They were imported in large numbers and that combined with their plain coloration kept prices low for them.
Jeff

>>I have been offered some Guyanas as part of a trade. I cannot find very much info on them. Are they much different to house than Brazilians (aside from the obvious size difference)?
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>>Any tips, help, links and/or pics appreciated!!
>>
>>Thanks,
>>-----
>>Diego
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>>Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
>>SNAKES
>>2.4.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
>>1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
>>2.1.0 Baird's Rat Snakes
>>1.2.0 Trans-Pecos Rat Snakes
>>0.1.0 Trinket Rat Snake
>>0.1.0 Amel Pacific Gopher Snake
>>1.0.0 Het Amel San Diego Gopher Snake
>>3.1.0 Sonoran Gopher Snakes
>>0.1.0 Amel Sonoran Gopher Snakes
>>1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
>>2.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (1.1 River Road, 1.0 Non-Locale Specific)
>>0.2.0 California Kingsnakes
>>0.1.0 Thayeri Kingsnake
>>0.1.0 Florida Kingsnake
>>1.1.0 Boa Constrictors
>>0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
>>1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
>>1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
>>0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
>>0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
>>1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
>>1.1.0 Ball Pythons
>>1.0.0 Woma Python
>>1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
>>1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
>>1.1.0 Western Hognose
>>1.0.0 Blacktail Cribo
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>>LIZARDS
>>1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
>>3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
>>0.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
>>0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
>>1.3.0 Leopard Geckos
>>1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
>>1.1.0 Chuckwalla
>>0.1.0 Banded Gecko
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>>FROGS
>>2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
>>1.0.1 Green Tree Frogs
>>1.0.0 Bubbling Kassina
>>1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs
>>0.0.2 Gold Frogs

This one was gravid when this PIC was taken.

>>Diego,
>>..I kept my Guyanan Rainbows just like I keep other smaller Rainbow subspecies. Temperatures from low 70s at one end of the cage to low 80s at the other end. Humidity needs to be kept above 50% most of the time. A plastic sweater size storage box makes an ideal cage for them. They were imported in large numbers and that combined with their plain coloration kept prices low for them.
>>Jeff
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>>>>I have been offered some Guyanas as part of a trade. I cannot find very much info on them. Are they much different to house than Brazilians (aside from the obvious size difference)?
>>>>
>>>>Any tips, help, links and/or pics appreciated!!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>-----
>>>>Diego

hey jeff

have you got any picture of babies grb?

i have a gravid female and was wandering how the babies will be.

sorry for my english {the last time i use it was in high scool}.

here are my grb's -

Thanks for the great pics, youval. And your english is quite good!
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Diego

Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
SNAKES
2.4.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
2.1.0 Baird's Rat Snakes
1.2.0 Trans-Pecos Rat Snakes
0.1.0 Trinket Rat Snake
0.1.0 Amel Pacific Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Het Amel San Diego Gopher Snake
3.1.0 Sonoran Gopher Snakes
0.1.0 Amel Sonoran Gopher Snakes
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
2.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (1.1 River Road, 1.0 Non-Locale Specific)
0.2.0 California Kingsnakes
0.1.0 Thayeri Kingsnake
0.1.0 Florida Kingsnake
1.1.0 Boa Constrictors
0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
1.1.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Woma Python
1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
1.1.0 Western Hognose
1.0.0 Blacktail Cribo

LIZARDS
1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
0.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
1.3.0 Leopard Geckos
1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
1.1.0 Chuckwalla
0.1.0 Banded Gecko

FROGS
2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
1.0.1 Green Tree Frogs
1.0.0 Bubbling Kassina
1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs
0.0.2 Gold Frogs

Youval,
...Your English is outstanding. I only had one litter of Guyanan Rainbows. They looked like baby Colombian and Brazilian Rainbows except that their color was browner and they had the stripes on the sides of their necks like the adult Guyanans. They were a little smaller also, perhaps around 13 or 14 inches rather than the 15 to 18 inches of baby Colombians and Brazilians. My litter of babies was picky about taking their first meals. They did all eventually eat but several of them had small lizards for their first meal before they went long enough for me to worry about them or be sure that they would not have eventually taken a live fuzzy of hopper mouse. Your PICs are beautiful. Where did the snakes come from?
Jeff

>>hey jeff
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>>have you got any picture of babies grb?
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>>i have a gravid female and was wandering how the babies will be.
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>>sorry for my english {the last time i use it was in high scool}.
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>>here are my grb's -
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the snakes ware import here {israel} by one of the diller's {WC}.
they arrived 3 years ago and was abaut 90 c'm .

here are some new pix of the female from yesterday-

thank's,
youval

youval,
...Thank you for posting such good photos of your Guyanans. Looking around the internet there are not many PICs of them anywhere. Your female looks nice and gravid. Has she eaten anything since she started looking gravid? Most Rainbow Boas eat very little or not at all while they are gravid. I do not remember if my Guyanan ate while gravid or not.
...I know there are other people in Israel keeping Rainbow Boas. Some of my Brazilians went to Israel in 1998 or 1999. I have also gotten a couple of emails from Israelis who have Brazilians and Colombians and wanted to know about breeding them.
Jeff

>>the snakes ware import here {israel} by one of the diller's {WC}.
>>they arrived 3 years ago and was abaut 90 c'm .
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>>here are some new pix of the female from yesterday-
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>>thank's,
>> youval

you welcome jeff ,no problam...{i hope in a couple of weeks there will be on the net babies grb pics :}.

my female wont eat since 18/12/06.
the breeding start at 10/096.

i know some people here that keeping Rainbow {brb,crb} i dont know abaut grb's...

btw , if you got ani babies grb for sale now , what was thair price? { - )

thank you
youval

if you got any babies grg now for sale'what was thair price ? { -}

thanks again

youval,
...My only litter of Guyanan Rainbows was born in 1993. They were being imported here in the US in large numbers at that time and prices were too low to make any money breeding them. Recently they are not being imported so much and prices are typically around $100 for them here.
Jeff

>>if you got any babies grg now for sale'what was thair price ? { -}
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>>thanks again

Thanks for the excellent info and the pic, Jeff!

What's their temperament generally like?

Thanks,
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Diego

Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
SNAKES
2.4.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
2.1.0 Baird's Rat Snakes
1.2.0 Trans-Pecos Rat Snakes
0.1.0 Trinket Rat Snake
0.1.0 Amel Pacific Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Het Amel San Diego Gopher Snake
3.1.0 Sonoran Gopher Snakes
0.1.0 Amel Sonoran Gopher Snakes
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
2.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (1.1 River Road, 1.0 Non-Locale Specific)
0.2.0 California Kingsnakes
0.1.0 Thayeri Kingsnake
0.1.0 Florida Kingsnake
1.1.0 Boa Constrictors
0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
1.1.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Woma Python
1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
1.1.0 Western Hognose
1.0.0 Blacktail Cribo

LIZARDS
1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
0.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
1.3.0 Leopard Geckos
1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
1.1.0 Chuckwalla
0.1.0 Banded Gecko

FROGS
2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
1.0.1 Green Tree Frogs
1.0.0 Bubbling Kassina
1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs
0.0.2 Gold Frogs

...what is the maximum, as well as average size for these guys?

Thanks,
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Diego

Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
SNAKES
2.4.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
2.1.0 Baird's Rat Snakes
1.2.0 Trans-Pecos Rat Snakes
0.1.0 Trinket Rat Snake
0.1.0 Amel Pacific Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Het Amel San Diego Gopher Snake
3.1.0 Sonoran Gopher Snakes
0.1.0 Amel Sonoran Gopher Snakes
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
2.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (1.1 River Road, 1.0 Non-Locale Specific)
0.2.0 California Kingsnakes
0.1.0 Thayeri Kingsnake
0.1.0 Florida Kingsnake
1.1.0 Boa Constrictors
0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
1.1.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Woma Python
1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
1.1.0 Western Hognose
1.0.0 Blacktail Cribo

LIZARDS
1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
0.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
1.3.0 Leopard Geckos
1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
1.1.0 Chuckwalla
0.1.0 Banded Gecko

FROGS
2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
1.0.1 Green Tree Frogs
1.0.0 Bubbling Kassina
1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs
0.0.2 Gold Frogs

Diego,
....Mine reproduced when they were around 40 to 44 inches in length and I have never seen one larger than 4 feet long. My guess is that maximum size is probably less than 5 feet. Newly imported ones will usually bite but like all Rainbow Boas they are easily tamed.
Jeff

>>...what is the maximum, as well as average size for these guys?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>-----
>>Diego
>>
>>Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
>>SNAKES
>>2.4.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
>>1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
>>2.1.0 Baird's Rat Snakes
>>1.2.0 Trans-Pecos Rat Snakes
>>0.1.0 Trinket Rat Snake
>>0.1.0 Amel Pacific Gopher Snake
>>1.0.0 Het Amel San Diego Gopher Snake
>>3.1.0 Sonoran Gopher Snakes
>>0.1.0 Amel Sonoran Gopher Snakes
>>1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
>>2.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (1.1 River Road, 1.0 Non-Locale Specific)
>>0.2.0 California Kingsnakes
>>0.1.0 Thayeri Kingsnake
>>0.1.0 Florida Kingsnake
>>1.1.0 Boa Constrictors
>>0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
>>1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
>>1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
>>0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
>>0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
>>1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
>>1.1.0 Ball Pythons
>>1.0.0 Woma Python
>>1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
>>1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
>>1.1.0 Western Hognose
>>1.0.0 Blacktail Cribo
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>>LIZARDS
>>1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
>>3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
>>0.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
>>0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
>>1.3.0 Leopard Geckos
>>1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
>>1.1.0 Chuckwalla
>>0.1.0 Banded Gecko
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>>FROGS
>>2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
>>1.0.1 Green Tree Frogs
>>1.0.0 Bubbling Kassina
>>1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs
>>0.0.2 Gold Frogs

Thank you again for all of the information, Jeff!
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Diego

Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
SNAKES
2.4.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
2.1.0 Baird's Rat Snakes
1.2.0 Trans-Pecos Rat Snakes
0.1.0 Trinket Rat Snake
0.1.0 Amel Pacific Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Het Amel San Diego Gopher Snake
3.1.0 Sonoran Gopher Snakes
0.1.0 Amel Sonoran Gopher Snakes
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
2.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (1.1 River Road, 1.0 Non-Locale Specific)
0.2.0 California Kingsnakes
0.1.0 Thayeri Kingsnake
0.1.0 Florida Kingsnake
1.1.0 Boa Constrictors
0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
1.1.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Woma Python
1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
1.1.0 Western Hognose
1.0.0 Blacktail Cribo

LIZARDS
1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
0.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
1.3.0 Leopard Geckos
1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
1.1.0 Chuckwalla
0.1.0 Banded Gecko

FROGS
2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
1.0.1 Green Tree Frogs
1.0.0 Bubbling Kassina
1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs
0.0.2 Gold Frogs

just sharing some picture of mine for these that did not see them in the boa forum. enjoy! oppionions please!

josh

Josh,
...Your snakes have way too much Brazilian Rainbow boa, Epicrates cenchria cenchria, pattern to be full Guyanans. My guess is that your snakes are either full Brazilians or crosses between Brazilians and Guyanans. Where did you get them? Have a look at the PICs that youval posted to see how his Guyanans (which are like all the Guyanans I have seen) have striping along the sides rather than the dark spots with bright crescents above them which are more typical of Brazilians. The pattern along the back also looks slightly more like the Brazilians. Can you post some PICs showing closer and better detail of the markings on the snakes? Also, how old and how long are your snakes?
Jeff

>>just sharing some picture of mine for these that did not see them in the boa forum. enjoy! oppionions please!
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>>josh
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hey jeff,

ive been told they originaly came from price animal company. i got them from petacular exotics in antioch ca. im not sure exactly how old they are. ive had them for almost two years. im trying t oget better pictures so as soon as i get them i will post.

thanks

josh

>>hey jeff,
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>>ive been told they originaly came from price animal company. i got them from petacular exotics in antioch ca. im not sure exactly how old they are. ive had them for almost two years. im trying t oget better pictures so as soon as i get them i will post.
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>>thanks
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>>josh

Josh,
..If you get a minute measure them. If they are much over 4 feet long that almost certainly identifies them as not being full Guyanans.
Jeff

>>>>hey jeff,
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>>>>ive been told they originaly came from price animal company. i got them from petacular exotics in antioch ca. im not sure exactly how old they are. ive had them for almost two years. im trying t oget better pictures so as soon as i get them i will post.
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>>>>thanks
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>>>>josh