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i was wondering if anybody could help me i just had my green tree python die. i am not sure why i only had it for a short time it was a gift from somebody. i had it for about a months time it had eaten about the first three months i had it and it had been acting like a normal green tree (on its perch) it had eaten every time with out problem. about the forth week i went to feed it again and i noticed it acting strange. it got ery agressive when every i opened the cage and would strike randomly always missing the feed. i did not want upset it to much so i let it be, the next couple of days it was on the bottom of the cage acting strange and did not return to any of its porches. i found him dead today and i would like to know why. if any body has any ideas could you please email me @ codysthinking@gmail.com
please help!

There are a whole host of reasons why a chondro might die. I'm assuming this was a young animal? Was it Captive born and bred or a farmed import? If it was an import, there's a good chance that parasites in one form or another killed it. The fact that it spent days on the floor of the enclosure doesn't sound good either. While chondros periodically spend time down there, it's usually not for days at a time (usually..they don't all read the book!) Was it holding it's head in an upright position, any bubbles? What were the temps you kept it at, the humidity? Did you spray it, or rely on the water bowl only as the water source? They can dehydrate rapidly and will die from kidney failure as a result. A necropsy by a vet can tell you more, but if you do that you need to refridgerate...NOT FREEZE the body.
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1.05~Cornsnakes
1.2.2~Green tree python
0.0.1~ATB
Dogs, cats, horses....
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I agree with Meg, that there is a bunch of possable reasons...

Usually in this case it is parasites or RI to blame... Considering your have a few snakes in your collection a necropsy by a vet might be in your best intrest...

As far as the having to spray your Chondro part....... I am sorry but I don't agree at all... As long as the cage has a good temp and good humidity your snake shouldent have any problems using the water bowl... I have a good sized Chondro collection and I have not misted the snakes in over a year... I mist the bottom of the enclosure to saturate all the cyprus and thats it... I have not lost any snakes and have not experienced any issues... I am not the only person that does this either and I have not heard of any problems...

just my 2 cents...

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Shiloh Hawkesworth
kansas
(Midwest Serpents)

were not vets here. If you really want to know how your animal died take it in for a necropsy. Chondros roll, imports tend to roll a lot more frequently than cbb(US) animals do. Again there is no possible way we can tell you why your animal died, period. You would have to take it in for necropsy to get a definitive answer.

Also im with shiloh. I only spray breeding females. I rarely mist my animals.
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Julian Garcia
Chondros Exquisite
Seattle,WA

PS. Shiloh looks purdy in a dress.
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Julian Garcia
Chondros Exquisite
Seattle,WA

No respect!!! I guess I'm paranoid and spray mine to be sure they get water...mine drink off themselves quite a bit. I have had shedding issues especially since I changed the tubs to the screen over the heat lamp (Greg Maxwell style). A lot more evaporation going on. Can't wait to get my enclosures built with the heat panels.
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1.05~Cornsnakes
1.2.2~Green tree python
0.0.1~ATB
Dogs, cats, horses....
www.franclycac.com

Julian for the 100th time... NO I will not date you... Your not my type... And I have never and will never wear a dress...

Hey Meg if you get a chance give me a call sometime 620-203-0458
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Shiloh Hawkesworth
kansas
(Midwest Serpents)

I think we'd all like to see the dress photo though......I'll give you a call...
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1.05~Cornsnakes
1.2.2~Green tree python
0.0.1~ATB
Dogs, cats, horses....
www.franclycac.com

i know how green trees are suppose to act and the last week mine was not acting like one should. the temp in my cage was at 87 during the day and 78 at night the humidty during the day was at 80% and 50% at night. i sprayed the enclosure during the day and there was also a large water dish at the bottom of the enclosure for the first couple weeks i did see it climb down to sip water so it had no problem locating the water dish. and my snake was young and during the last week it would hold its head in a very strange manner like sort of sideways andgoofy looking i hever never see snake act this way before. as far bringing the body to a vet i can not i am away at school and no vets around me could help me out. i checked aroudn the anal scales and on the eyes and around the face and mouths for parasites but have seen nothign unusual.

TRUST ME.... i know exactly how you feel, not too long ago i was in the same boat you are in, and it was horrible

but dont give up, bring it to have it checked out wat the cause of death was, so you can see what was done incorrectly, and defiately get another from a good well grounded breeder and take care of em correctly and you will be happy again... i bought a new yearling and its doing amazing

a good thermostat and a heat panel were two of the smartest things ive done, along with the awesome acrylic tank

either way, sorry to hear about it all, but like everyone said it could be many different reasons, just figure out what it was, so you can be certain it doesnt happen again!

The parasites referred to above as possible causes are internal parasites (endoparasites) like hookworms, roundworms, flagellates, etc. They are usually more dangerous then your external parasites like mites and ticks. Sorry for your loss.

50% humidity is a bit low, especially for a neonate although I doubt in itself it would cause death. Could have been an RI if it was holding itself weird. You're going to need to have a qualified vet to handle any problems that you encounter with these animals in the future. It's hardly fair to keep something you have no intention of taking to a vet, whether it's due to finances or lack of qualified assistance if it gets sick. Chondros are fairly fragile and will go downhill quickly, especially respiratory wise.
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1.05~Cornsnakes
1.2.2~Green tree python
0.0.1~ATB
Dogs, cats, horses....
www.franclycac.com

I think RI is a good guess in this case...
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Shiloh Hawkesworth
kansas
(Midwest Serpents)