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Sunken top of head and area were tail meets hips. Is she going to die ? Im worried she keeps totally laying town. i have ehr in the bath with warm water and im force feeding her calcium water. I dont ahve any money for a vet right now I need help ASAP

I'm thinking it may be metabolic bone desease now.... what can I do!?

When I bought Bam he looked like that. I'll post the pic that I took the night I got him. His problem was that he was not in the proper enviroment. He is now perfectly healthy. I'm not an expert by any means but I made sure he had enough heat and food and he's gotten so much better in just over a week. If your enviroment and feeding schedules are on then I would definitley take him to the vet.

I'm assuming your using a needless syring to give it water. To get a little bit of nutrion in the body I say try giving it a insect-shake. Take some crickets and/or mealworms and/or some other feeder insect you can get from a pet store along with some turnip greens (very good calcium sorce) and give it about 1 cc every few hours. That or get some baby food (that reminds you of applesauce) and give it some of that. Just make sure to check the ingredents lable for what's in it.
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Rex- "normal" orange fire)
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Glutany- German Giant Mix)
0.1.0 Okeetee Corn (Okatee)
1.1.0 Spotted Python (Hotdog and Shoelace)

forgot to mention that the insect-shake has to be blended up in the blender to a smooth and pretty much watery texture.
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Rex- "normal" orange fire)
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Glutany- German Giant Mix)
0.1.0 Okeetee Corn (Okatee)
1.1.0 Spotted Python (Hotdog and Shoelace)

thanks man. I'll try it.

If your dragon is in that bad a condition, need to know background on him. Was he a rescue you acquired? Or did you buy him and he started to decline? Feeding by syringe is good and one way to get food back into him, but if he became in this condition due to something missing in his setup, the only way to ensure he has the best chance to recover is to correct the error in his husbandry.

If you can give us a detailed account of how you are keeping him, if he is a rescue (either given to you by friend etc, or 'rescued' from a petstore) then it is just a matter of setting up the ideal setup for him, free of distractions in a quiet area of the house so he can concentrate on getting better.

Another good thing to add to the 'insect shake' would be juvenile bearded dragon pellets. These will help balance out the liquid diet and in a way, much easier to turn into a liquid than crickets etc. Oh and silkworms/butterworms would make a better choice in an insect shake than crickets, mealworms or superworms. Less exoskeleton to gum up your blender. Silkworms liquify very easily in a blender...I known I tried it, with the thought of freezing it and using it as a nice treat for my geckos....ground up silkworms have alot of water and doesn't smell very nice. It is also an icky black color LOL.
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PHLdyPayne

i only mentioned crickets and mealworms and such 'cause i live in FL and most places won't ship other feeders here cause it's illegal. blah! but silkworms and maybe even a few waxworms would be good to add to the blend.
don't forget to add some fruits and veggies to the blend. and maybe a little calcuim and/or vitamin dust.
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Rex- "normal" orange fire)
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Glutany- German Giant Mix)
0.1.0 Okeetee Corn (Okatee)
1.1.0 Spotted Python (Hotdog and Shoelace)

Hi
whats youre set up ?
is baskingside 110 ?
do you have uvb lighting ???
tel so much as you can .
byeeeeee
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www.dragoncave.nl

Basking temp of 110 UV Lighting and i sut her crickets every morning. Shes throwing up saliva stuff. I dont knwo whats wrong shes going to die because im broke from a family funeral expensies to pay for a vet she wont eat or anything either.

Giving the condition she's in and the fact she is coughing up mucus, I suspect she may have an upper respiratory infection. As you can't afford to get her to a vet for proper treatment, the best thing to do would be to have her humanely euthanized so she won't suffer anymore. The condition she's in from the pictures indicate that she hasn't been well for awhile.

This isn't something that will go away on its own, she needs professional medical attention from a qualified herp vet. Now, your real choice is if you want her to suffer or if you can find some way to get her to a vet to give her what she needs to get better, medications such as anti-biotics and stuff to boost her nutrition intake. Cricket shakes etc may help a bit but till the real cause of her condition is discovered and treated, it will only be a temporary 'fix'. Talk to your vet, some may be willing to put you on a payment plan so you can pay the bill in monthly installments instead of all at once. IF this isn't possible, reptile rescues in your area may be willing to take her and give her the medical attention your dragon needs to survive. However this probably means giving her up to the rescue but at least you will know she will get the best care possible.
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PHLdyPayne

i agree lady .
a good dokter wil help you out and wil make a payment solution .
byeeeeee
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www.dragoncave.nl

Hi
i would surely go to a vet ,sounds she got some thing you dont can cure now without propper medicines.
i would do a fecal exame to .
go to vet and tel youre situation ,i know for shure there r dokters who help you and you tel them you pay them later if you have money r make a apoinment you pay them every month some thing.
if its a good vet he wil help you i know for shure.
good dokters wil help sick animals,even for free.
but asked them and if one not wil do it call a other vet .
on www.herpvetconection.com you can find more vets.
one time my dog got sick and i got also that time no money for operation ,it costed 1500 dollar and i pay them every month 100 dollar .
they dith two operations.
sadly he dint make it but atleast whe try it.
byeeeeee
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www.dragoncave.nl

Ok the vet said she will care for her for free. But she is going to keep her. Basically a rescue. She said if she does die, then she will let me burry her in the garen at my house...

Scratch that, now she can't take her. HOw much aprox. is it to euthinize a beardie ?

Hi
i feel sorry for you
can you not go to vet and let her see youre beardie so she can find out what he have ???
like a fecal exame , maybe she carring parasites , r maybe she have some kind of repiration faulure and then you need antibiotica.
i know for sure ,you can arange some thing for the cost .
i dunno what euthansie cost .
i would first let exame youre beardie and tell her you not have the money right now i know for shure she wil find a solution .
good luck .
byeeeee
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www.dragoncave.nl

I'll try that out man. Because I love my beardie shes 3 years old almost and ive had her since she was very young. like 1 month old i think or 6 weeks...

Hi
try out parazap.com
also buy some good bacterias called probiotics .
in a drugstore you can buy them .
oput one capsule in 1/4 of cooled of boiled water.
they also be named achidophulus .
when vet exame youre beardie and give medicine then you need to give those bacterias .
www.herpvetconection.com there you can find a vet nearby ,if youre vet not wil help then for shure a other veterian wil help you out .
i know its hard to see a beardie suffering ,i gues he have some parasietes like worms and those eating the nutrions you giving now .
so that why i saying doa fecal exame at a vet ,then if there ar worms then give for 1 week parazap then one week not and then again 1 week parazap tea .
read the website of parazap.
good luck byeeeee
byeeee
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www.dragoncave.nl

I know when mt snake had got an Upper Respitory ifection all i really needed to do was turn up the heat. BUT if an animal's had it for a while then yes, antibiotics IS the only way to cure it. Don't know how much it costs but normally it's only one shot an a week of recovery.
My vet does fecal testing for only $30 (after tax, harzard waste, and what not). Then you can go from there. I've used Parazap and have had no problems with it. Haven't a fecal done yet on mine casue he's in brumution and isn't eatting enough to poop.
But one MAIN parasite that comes to mind is heart worms. Ignoring the fact that it's commonly found in mammals (cats, dogs, horses, etc.) That's one I really wouldn't rule out, cause when an animals as a bad case of heart worms, worms fill the heart making it pump harder with less blood, and worms spread into the lungs and blah! But normally heart worms are related to fleas and fleas like heat and carbon, so i dunno if ANY reptile has any real worry about them. I know they do with mites....

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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Rex- "normal" orange fire)
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Glutany- German Giant Mix)
0.1.0 Okeetee Corn (Okatee)
1.1.0 Spotted Python (Hotdog and Shoelace)