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Ok so my spelling's a bit off, but where can you get this done for reptiles. I wanted to get it done for my bearded dragons and snakes. We got it done for our dog last month. I was thinking about the "Home Agian" thing like they use for dogs as it has GPS. That would sure make it easier to find lost/stolen animals. Any info on this would be great. Thankx
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Rex- "normal" orange fire)
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Glutany- German Giant Mix)
0.1.0 Okeetee Corn (Okatee)
1.1.0 Spotted Python (Hotdog and Shoelace)

GPS is not available for home again yet.

Also, contact your reptile vet. There are microchips available that I know have been put into reptiles. It needs to be done right. I have heard horror stories of snakes who had it accidentally injected into their trachea and then subsequently died.

No GPS technology is available YET. Not from AVID not from "Home Again". This is still in the works. What it does do is ID that animals forever.

Hey how are you. Well as far as micro chipping goes, ive never heard of a vet or anyone do it! I know a guy in florida who sells the microchipping kits, and i belive what you do is put it up their behinds, or put it in prekilled rodents and when the rodent digest the chip stays in their stomache lining!!!!

If swallowed with prey,it will just be passed out in the poop. Correct placement is to inject with special syringe into muscle tissue.

>>Hey how are you. Well as far as micro chipping goes, ive never heard of a vet or anyone do it! I know a guy in florida who sells the microchipping kits, and i belive what you do is put it up their behinds, or put it in prekilled rodents and when the rodent digest the chip stays in their stomache lining!!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, selectively bred from good stock)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
12.25 BRB
12.14 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

i wasn't gonna say anything to them about that lol
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Rex- "normal" orange fire)
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Glutany- German Giant Mix)
0.1.0 Okeetee Corn (Okatee)
1.1.0 Spotted Python (Hotdog and Shoelace)

"If swallowed with prey,it will just be passed out in the poop. Correct placement is to inject with special syringe into muscle tissue. "

Actually you're also wrong, just less wrong. It's actually injected into the subcutaneous tissue... the tissue between the skin and the muscle. Injection into the muscle with that size needle would be very painful.

Are you for real???, or is this some kind of joke!!??
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Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!

My vet specializes in reptile medicine.
She microchipped my tortoise over a year ago & it's never been a problem.. however my tortoise did weigh 50lbs at the time. The tortoise is bigger than that now and because she has to live outdoors 24/7/365 we wanted some protection in case anything ever did happen to her.
If GPS tracking is ever available we'll want that too.
You never know what a thief might want to steal from you.

I think I was alittle off on the whole GPS thing. But hey, if they every did come out with one for the general public pet, I'd get one. Then finding an escaped snake or stolen pet would be so much easier.
As for the not so smart comment someone made... here's you sign. lol when they do microchipping they inject it under the skin into the body with a larger than normal needle. that way the body won't flush it out like it would if it was eatten.
But has anyone had it done with a small reptile? I know someone commented on a 50 lb turtle, but how about a 2 lb bearded dragon (my largest male, Gluttany).

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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Rex- "normal" orange fire)
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Glutany- German Giant Mix)
0.1.0 Okeetee Corn (Okatee)
1.1.0 Spotted Python (Hotdog and Shoelace)

Microchipping is really only for high-priced or rare animals to verify breeder, bloodline, purity, owner. I don't think it's intended for beardies or the like - beardies don't normally end up in the pound if they get outside and they aren't likely to be stolen. the chips are like $20-$25

I know of some kingsnakes that were done. But they were research animals at KSU Veterinary Hospital a while ago, which is where I heard about the microchip into the trachea story.

What I'd do if I was you and interested in learning about this...
I would contact your reptile vet and have them do some research for you on the subject. It would at this time only be for ID of an animal... But they could at least look into the procedure for implanting them.

I'd say GPS technology will be available within the next ten years, at least how both AVID and "Home-Again" have made it sound at conferences and meetings. When it is available it will only be like you get 3 tries and then the GPS battery wears off or something like that. It would still be hard to do in smaller reptiles just due to the size of the needle vs. the size of the animal.

I've heard it done to adult Burmese pythons and Retics. Makes sense that a small chip would not affect those animals.

Go to those forums (Retic forum or Burmese forum) and ask. Also, look at BoB Clark's website. I think he mentions it there.

there's really no point - not at least for any animal that could easily be bought under $100 - money better off being spent on your animal for food etc.

I'm assuming by Microchipping, that you are referring to PIT tagging. PIT (Passive Integrated Transponder) tags are injected subcutaneously as was said earlier. Snakes as small as corn snakes and even some that are smaller can be PIT tagged. The down side is the cost. The tags cost $40-60 each. I would agree that unless you have animals that are exceedingly rare (which I wouldn't call a Beardie rare) that you should save your money and just use that money to help enjoy your animals. Hope this helps!

I have used PIT tags for years marking timber rattlesnakes, copperheads, black ratsnakes, etc. for research. I know that we got them for $5 but I am unsure how we did (I think we got them through the university we worked with). When used properly they are harmless and perminant. I agree that it is not worth the money unless the animals are prized.

www.RTReptiles.com

Yes the needle is big. When done correctly the needle is placed between the skin and muscle. It (should) never enter the body cavity therefore it usually doesn't even bleed. They flinch for a second and then it is over.

About feeding it to them. It doesn't work. Once we caught a prairie kingsnake that had a PIT tag but the number was of a neonate timber rattlesnake i.e. he ate the rattlesnake. We kept the kingsnake until he passed the PIT tag (a week or so).

Ryan Turnquist
www.RTReptiles.com

Just to clear up a few misconceptions, first of all it has to be injected subcutaneously under the skin. That is the only approved route any manufacturer recommends. If given inside a prekilled rat it will most certainly be passed.

The vet and I at my animal hospital chipped my indigo when he was about 18" long. It is recommended to be placed in snakes about 5 lengths (the size of the head) caudally from the head and laterally to the right. In most reptiles you have to use a glue to close the skin. It took about 3 sheds for the skin to appear normal again. To this day there are no visible scars from where the chip was placed. I can check tomorrow at work for the recommended placement of chips in lizards. We use the British Veterinary Medical Association recommendations for placement in exotics.

Finally I would HIGHLY recommend you find someone who has done it before. We routinely chip exotics of all types and I have seen a few horror stories of vets who normally do dogs and cats and experiment on exotics. Experience is everything! The main reason for chipping your pet is that it is the only foolproof method of proving ownership in a court of law.

Sincerely,
Roly
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Like what type of horror stories we talking about here?
And I have been thinking about getting my reptiles chipped just incase they disapper one day and someone happens to "get" a new pet that looks like the one(s) i might be missing or whatever.
Or even that one day someone says that they think I stole one of their pets and then I can prove that they are my pets and whatnot. Price of an animals isn't what always makes it so valueble.
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Rex- "normal" orange fire)
1.0.0 Bearded Dragon (Glutany- German Giant Mix)
0.1.0 Okeetee Corn (Okatee)
1.1.0 Spotted Python (Hotdog and Shoelace)