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He is looking good and I can't wait to get the breeding underway.

Shannon

That really looks stunning Shannon. Real beauty !
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RAY

Thanks Ray,
Can't wait for later this year.It should be like x-mas around here in july or so.
Fingers crossed for the first visual Peral to show its head also.

Shannon

It sounds like you are really in for some really great hondos (crossing my fingers on the triple homozygous) this season.

Oh, could you post the pics of the females that you will be breeding your tri-colored extreme hypo with indicating their genotypes as well? Would be great if you can.

Thanks,
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RAY

Thanks Ray,
Well,I have two female hypos that could turn out for me.One is proven last year to be het for both anery and amel.I also have this other female that is het for amelo and is 66% het for hypo but she is a virgin but is large and is going on three now.

Anyway,I also have a ghost male that is possible het amel incase my tri-extreme hypo doesn't turn out to be carrying both genes.

here is the first hypo that is now proven to be het for both.

here is the other female thatis het amel and possible het hypo.

Shannon

Especially the first hypo female that is definitely het anery and amel. Can you imagine the possibilities if that tri-hypo extreme proves out to be het anery and amel too? I'd be going crazy just about now if I were you waiting for the season to warm up !

Good luck man and please let me know what you produce.

Thanks,
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RAY

Regarding that second female pictured; did you mean that she is poss. het ANERY not hypo?

One other comment/question...have you noticed that even the best hatchling Hypo tri-colors tend to have tons of tipping when the age?

All the tri-colors shown below were amazing looking neonates...and the first and third ones pictured have both tipped up quite a bit. The second one shown below has almost zero tipping as an adult.

Even your extreme tri-color still has the same kind of tipping that I'm observing with my Hondos.

Is this due to the other Het. genes (Amel and Anery) messing things up?

What are your thoughts?

-RG

Pictured:

1. Hypo het Amel, 50% Het Anery (Dunham Stock)
2. Hypo (Amro H. Stock)
3. Hypo 66% Het Amel and Anery (Dunham Stock)

While I agree that some tricolor hypos do tip, others don't tip at all. Below is a two and a half year old hypo tricolor currently brumating. She has zero tipping at all and hopefully when I breed her this season, her offsprings will mimic her genes.

-RAY

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RAY

Ray,..........that's a real beauty you have there!!, I see she's not starving either!!!(LOL).......................Doug
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Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!

Thanks man. Yeah, she eats just about anything you put in front of her since she was a hatchling. I'm not sure exactly how much she weighs now but she was bout 5 feet long before brumation. I wanted to mate her last year but my ghost male was not ready for her at that time. This year he will be ready for her.

Even though I have some extremes and ghosts that are on paper supposedly more valuable than her, she is my favorite as she handles extremely well. I sometimes bring her to the zoo I volunteer at and we use her to bring awareness to kids concerning conservation. She's pretty much a hit with them too.

Here's the male ghost I am hoping to pair her with. This ghost is probably from an extreme line ( Mike Alvarez was not 100% sure if he has the extreme gene ). But even if not, he's a pretty clean ghost as an adult.

Thanks for looking again.

Ray

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RAY

I know just what you're saying about certain ones being favorites!!. Some of my favorites where of some that where not particularly expensive either, it was just their demeanor when being held. One of my big adult "tangerines" would stay in the same coiled position without even moving a muscle, and would stay nice and slow moving when she eventually unwound.To be honest, most of my animals that I have EVER HAD have been quite calm.......All the stuff I'm alway hearing from people about how "jumpy", and nervous their Milks are, I don't really agree with at all. In my opinion, working with snakes for 40 years now, It's all in the handling technique!!. For example,...someone was holding an anery. Hond. I gave them, complaining it was so damn jumpy and biting,.....so I took the snake from him..........within 30 seconds the little guy was fine!!! .....I rest my case!!LOL..you probably have similar views on this as well!.........anyway, that's a very nice looking "ghost" you have lined up for the hypo.........they should produce some real "winners".......best regards,.......................Doug
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Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!

I just kinda shake my head also when I read stuff like hondos are hard to handle. It's really just the first 2 months of its life that it tends to be "flighty" and yet if you really know how to handle a hatchling, it doesn't have to try to get away from you or bite you...so yeah, I hear 'ya.

It could also be that some people are just natural in handling them and some are just uneasy about handling them. You cannot be too aggressive ( unless you want to be bitten ) or too passive that it makes it easier for the hatchling to slither away from you.

Anyway, thanks and good luck to you this coming spring/summer breeding season.
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RAY

Well, Ray is correct that some doa nd some don't.His is very very clean but I still see tipping in the outer bands.It actually looks good if you ask me.
These two below were total screamers as hatchling and now as adults they do have some tipping but I think it sets them off to look good.

I will post another that I produced a couple years ago that has stayed very clean but still has a little.

Shannon

heres a really nice v.p tri color I produced a couple years ago from a ghost to dbl-het ghost.She is 100% het anery and is already v.p.She should make some great ghosts this year.

here she is a baby.

here she is as a yearling.

here is a pretty recent pic.

I have four great choices to breed to her this year???what to do..LOL...

Shannon

Awesome snake bro, I love it. I may have to get another Hondo or two this year. You aint coming to TX for NARBC are ya?
Tom Stevens
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Thanks Tom,
Hard to say man.I plan on going to Daytona this year but I have always wanted to go to the Texas show also.Who knows?time will tell.
How is that female stubbed tail looking?she should be ready to breed right.

L8r

Cool looking snake, hypo tricolors are one of my favorite snakes and that one is way up there. Whats going on in the white bands? It almost looks like grey tipping, is that real?

Vinny
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Yep, its a extreme so even the tipping is extreme.Very cool.
Shannon

Shannon,
That snake is looking great man, its really neat looking. The colors are amazing,
Jeff