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Hello everyone, I also posted this message in the CITES fourm, but I figured y'all boa people could help me more.

I am looking to import a small group of Captive Bred insular boas (B.c.imperator) from a Canadian breeder. He is able to secure a Cites export permit from Canada for the animals.

My question is, I will need a Cites import permit since Boas are Cites animals...correct? I did many google searches trying to find a link for the process, but cannot locate anything.

Does anyone know the process or the paperwork I need to complete? The boas aren't represented in US collections- or else I would find a US breeder for them.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Graham

Hi Graham,

You shouldent need an import permit from the states from eppendix II animals unless specified, at least here in Canada we only need the export from the states to import we dont need an import for appendix II....

Here is a copy of the original cites text...

Appendix-II specimens

What kind of "Insular" boas are you getting ? From who are you getting them ? I would really be surprised that you cant find the local directly in the states.....

Hope this helps,

Stav

Thank you Stav for the info. A US friend who brings in shippments also gave me some tips. It should be possible...just alittle costly...

The boas are San Andreas Island Boas (B.c.i.)...they look almost just like a Hog Island boa...the island is pretty close to Cayo cochinos... I'm sure back in the "hey day" of Hog imports, they were brought into the us as Hog Island boas...

Canada got a group of WC San Andreas boas a few years back.... I'm just an insular locality nut and have to have them...lol...

I have Hog Islands, Crawl Cays, Corn Islands, and Cay Caulkers....

Probably pick up Isla Roatan firebellies next year....

Thanks again for your help!

Graham

Thank you Stav for the info. A US friend who brings in shippments also gave me some tips. It should be possible...just alittle costly...

Cool

If I can give you some advice.... make sure you get all the proper info like copies of the import papers from the breeder that has them that got them in the country that prove the "real" origin of the snakes. All the info you need on the guy/company that exported them to Canada , you will find on the cities papers : his country, full name, address, phone number etc... You can then make the proper phone calls to insure you are buying the local you want to buy.

Just thought I would tell you a bit on that because there is people here in Canada selling " Hogs " as San's to make a surplus buck without providing any kind of references on their origins except the usual chorus " I got them in a wild shipment" or just because of size or color......

I my point of view if you cant get the proper info as far as papers goes with the original exporter's name , phone and address and verify after , since you say they are WC and came in the country a few years ago ( it would be really easy to find out ) then they are not anything else than different looking hogs.....

Canada is a small world when it comes to snakes and not many have San's at least san's that you can trace back the origins....Do you have pictures of them and the parents and pictures of the mother with the babies ?

Stav

I found the guy on redtailboa dot net... he has pics of his adults. I just emailed him to see if he has had any success at breeding them (and that I was interested in babies)... He is susposed to have 2 gravid females right now.

You are perfectly correct Stav- import docs for the WC animals (or some sort of papertail is a MUST), especially if I'm going to spend all the money and hastle of importing a very small group (2.2)...

I doubt anyone here in america will be beating down my door to get babies whenever I would produce them...especially since they look so much like Hog Island boas...I'm just a locality guy who would like to add them to my group.

Thanks Stav...wish our countries allowed easier trade in animals... I consider myself lucky to have the big variety of animals here in the US...

Graham

No problemo Graham

Its true what you say about our two countries , I think the trade on CB reptiles should be revised 100% .

Stav

Here it is....

www.cites.org/eng/disc/how.shtml

You should also contact the national CITES Management Authorities In your country for the rules that apply.

Stav