whatever you do, you do it very gradually. Like Thomas pointed out, in nature temps don't usually come and go like a light switch, although they fluctuate somewhat, the trend is basically a steady one. Also, snakes can get sick when temps. suddenly rise and fall too quickly. The length of daylight also plays a key role in giving snakes the natural "cue" that cycles them..........the two species you mentioned you had should do fine on a fairly moderate brumation cycle, as they naturally occur in somewhat mild geographical ranges........make sure when you do bring them out of brumation, if you can warm them gradually over a period of couple weeks(or even longer), this would be ideal, while keeping in mind not to feed during this transition period..........also, plan ahead on what and how you are going to deal with many potential offspring, even though they are a long ways off, you did say you were new to this, and many people don't realize what this entales. It's always a good idea to know what your "game plan" is well in advance......hope this help,...............................................Doug
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