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Some pics taken last night. The only bad thing about it was I just gave him fresh water...

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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)

nice looking pics of Rocky, the new camera is working for you.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
13.24 BRB
12.14 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I've had that camera for a while. Thing is, I fogot to bring it home from school during my month long winter break. This weekend I remembered to bring it to get some good pics. Have you checked out the others of him eating?
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)

I get it, Yeah I saw those, nice pics as well.

Two points others wrote that I'd have to agree with:

1) You should be careful about ingesting substrate. While it could be harmless and pass with no problems. Duh, in the wild they don't have a clean tub to eat from. IMO it's better to not ingest any substrate to start with.

2) live is a no no as well, again in the wild they have to catch and esat live prey, in captivity however, they can be trained to eat previously killed food. even if all you do is stun the prey, you've reduced the capability of the feeder item to fight back. I have a snake (Savannah) with scars from feeder animals. I've also seen pics and read stories of snakes seriously injured by the feeder animal. While it is rare, the snake does sometimes lose the fight.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
13.24 BRB
12.14 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I'm just worried about making the snake vomit while transferring from one enclosure to another(I do have a nice Storage container that'd be perfect for feeding). I don't know if you saw me post before but I tried offering a F/T rat before and he showed very little interest and immediately pounced on a live rat. Guess I'll have to unwillingly stun them...
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)

an evolutionary problem/solution. he/she will eat live, if you can get it to eat stunned, then maybe you can get it to eat F/K. Once eating F/K, just one more step to F/T
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
13.24 BRB
12.14 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

...still I have to worry about the feeding in a separate enclosure. Won't he vomit as I transport him back to his cage?
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)

Scott,
I feed all my boas in a rubbermaid enclosure that measures 24"x16"x6". I remove them immediatly after the last rat has settled in and have never had one regurgitate. Just handle gently and return it immediatly to its enclosure.
Next time you feed a rat try this. Wait an extra week before feeding. Use a rubbermaid type box with the dimensions indicated above. Take two sections of newspaper and lightly wet the bottom of one section and place both in the rubbermaid with the wet side down (snake would be placed on dry section). Put the rubbermaid on something warm (high 70's). Put the CRB in the rubbermaid and give it about 10 minutes to settle in. Stun a rat by whacking it and place in the rubbermaid in front of the snakes head but not too close to scare the snake. Leave them alone for an hour. If after an hour it has'nt eaten, leave overnight. Keep trying this. It will work.
Paul

Sorry it took me so long to respond to this lol. I was just looking it over and was wondering what is the point of dampening one of the newspapers? To provide humidity?

And can paper towels be used instead? I like them better than newspaper when I can use them.
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)

Scott I don't know if slightly wetting the bottom of the newspaper is for humidity but maybe for getting it to stick to the bottom of the food tub so it is easier for the snake to eat without the paper sliding all over. If you keep Rocky in that container over night then your tub needs a top and some holes preferrably on the sides then the top, but if you get that smell of that rat in the tub before you put him in there then it should no problem for him to eat. Wait a extra few days just to make sure he is hungry if your school schedule allows and he'll be one step closer to frozen.
Bob

Scott I use a small feeding tub, bigger is not necessarily better. I put a face rag covering the whole bottom and let the mouse run around (you-rat) in it for ten minutes he'll probably poop and that smell is attractive to the snake. I then pull the mouse out put the snake in and let him enjoy the aroma. You-Put the rat in there (stunned preferrably) and it might trigger a strong feeding response from the time being in the small tub with rat aroma. Wait twenty mintes approach Rocky from behind but lift out the whole towel or rag and just transfer it to his cage just remember to support his weight and he shouldn't move on you to much at all. Or just put the small tub in his cage even if you have to remove a furnishing. And if you do feed him in his enclosure next time don't spray no water for a couple days before especially the moss and it should be drier by then and you can simply just move it to the side or just replace it.
Bob

They dont vomit that easily. I'd say your running a greater risk by feeding a mouse covered in substrate, then you are by transferring him to his enclosure.

My friend has even handled a snake for a few minutes after eating, and no regurgitation occurred. I advised him not to do it, but it didnt end up bad