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Are they the same or completely different?

Thanks for your time!

Steve Ingram

I pretty sure their both the same, but someone can always prove me wrong lol.

Derek
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0.1 Normal Burm ( Stewie ) Rescued
1.1 Albino Granite Burm ( Dollar and Cents ) HighEndHerps
1.0 Albino Tiger ( Lucky ) HighEndHerps
0.1 Super Tiger 100% Het Albino ( Blue ) Select Morphs
0.1 Tiger 100% Het Albino ( Free ) HighEndHerps
1.2 Atrox 100% Het Albino ( One, Two and Three ) Tim Cole
1.2 WA Gaboon Vipers Coming Soon ( Still Thinking ) ???

Cool! thanks for your response!!!

-Steve Ingram

Cindy came on this forum about a year ago and explained it for all of us. In a nutshell they came from two different imported animals but happen to be the same strain and are compatible. Hope this helps!

Thanks for your response!!

"Cindy came on this forum about a year ago and explained it for all of us. In a nutshell they came from two different imported animals but happen to be the same strain and are compatible. Hope this helps!"

No, that is not correct. The first amel was purchased by Peter Kalh. Pete named the morph amel which he had every right after paying more then $75,000 for the animal. Peter Kahl, & Al and Cindy worked a partnering agreement in breeding this line. Bob purchased hets from the Baldogo/Kahl first clutch and produced amels a couple of years later and called them Type II's. He felt that it was the same line as a wild caught animal that he imported around the same time. I have heard claims that Bob bred the amel line to the wild caught Type II, though not from Bob himself.

Jim

Jim

Jim-
You said (a bit more eloquently) basically what I was trying to. All though I feel like Cindy said that Bob did breed his imported "Type II" to some of the hets that he acquired from them. I'm not positive, but I thought she said so... that's why I said they were compatible.

BTW- any new pics of "twiggy"? I think that is probably the most beautiful tiger I've ever seen!

It's hard getting nice pictures when it is this time of the year. I like taking them while I have her outside in the summer, so the next round of pics will be a bit. That is unless I can find a giant tube sock and get her out sooner. Ha, ha, ha.

Thanks,

Jim

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Jim G, I have talked to bob many times about this subject and i have heard the words from him that the Type2s and the Type2 tigers he produced in 05 came from a tiger het from kahl to his Wild caught type2 female.

This might be true for 05, but I still think the original Type II's were produced from amel hets before 05. Anyone please correct me if I am incorrect.

Thanks,

Jim

Jim, I am not sure if he had any in 04 but i will find out and let ya know.

Jim In 04 bob bred a normal het female that he had got from peter kahl in 1999 i beleive (not positive on the year) to one of the tiger het amels he got from al in 2001. that is the first amels-type2s he produced. HE was sure that the lineage was compatable so he labeled them type2. Turns out he was right on them being compatable. It took me a while to think about what had be done on that breeding but i finally remembered it. Please speak up and correct me if i'm wrong or you know some more info. Congrats on your clutches this year. Hope everything goes well for ya

I did not remember it exactly, but did remember that the first ones that were produced came from Baldogo/Kahl amel hets.

I am kind of funny when it comes to names. I am not in favor of a couple different names for the same genetics. In some cases there are several names for the same genetics. Take the Fires and the Platinums for example. I believe they were first named Fires so they should be all called Fires. The Amel hets produced Type II's? See what I am saying? I am starting to get off the original topic. Sorry about that.

In any case thanks for you input on the subject. I too would like to give you a pat on the back for your clutches that you and Jim have produced. Keep pumping out those retics!

Jim

I am not the best at playing the name game, when you are around one group you hae to call them one name and another around the other guy. I guess as long as people have opinions we will have this delima