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I have read a lot about the morphs over the last few weeks and I have a question regarding the homo mojave. Is the super mojavea blue eyed lucy. I have seen a couple pics of supers and to me they appear a pleasant light grey with a slightly darker head. Not luesistic. Is the super I have seen in pics (prehistoric pets add for example) the same as the blue eyed lucy that can be produced by breeding to mojaves or is there seperate chances of a lucy as well as a super. Thanks in advance, Todd

the super mojave is a blue eyed lucistic. Lucistic means that part or all of an animal lacks the ability to show pigment. A super mojave is a mostly white snake with a grayish head and I think, a thin yellow dorsal stripe and as they age some tend to get a yellow tinge on their back. Other Lucys include mojave X lesser platty, mojave X phantom, mojave X Vin Russo, Vin Russo X lesser, lesser X lesser, lesser X phantom (I think), supper yellow bellies (Ivory), supper fires (black eyed) and arguably pieds.
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Depends on your definition of Leucistic. To me I use the achromatophoric, in which case the animal lacks, or has non-functional chromatophores. This prevents pigments from being expressed. Going by that definition the Super Mojave is not a Leucistic. Every breeder I have ever seen who has produced and or marketed a Super Mojave has called it just that, and not a Blue Eyed Lucy.

However an alternate definition of the term would describe the mutation, as well as Ivorys, Lattes, Super Russos, Super Lessers, Lesser X Phantom, Super Fire, Russo X Mojave and Super Butters as Leucistic. However as I said, I do not follow this definition.

the definition you provide does apply to Super Mojaves. In Birds the term lucistic is used for what we call Pieds because parts of the animal contain defective chromatophores. Also I would imagine that regardless of whether or not they are lucys, breeders would refer to Super Mojaves as such because, as it turns out, EVERYTHING makes a lucy! At any rate I probably should have mentioned that there are conflicting views on this.
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