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i want to put another type of frog or lizard in with my pair of green tree frogs, what will co exist with them?? and can someone post a link on GTF breeding or explain how to do it??

If you would like to add another pet to your GTF pair, add another GTF - for this a 30 gallon tank would suffice, bigger is always better. In general, mixing species is a no-no. While some have claimed success with mixing some species of frogs, I personally do not ever think it is a good idea to mix species of frogs and even more so with lizards and frogs. The are countless reasons not to mix: territorial issues, some can AND WILL eat others, one's toxin could be deadly to the other, different species require different environments, one's presence can stress the others...... just to name a few. I'll include a link to my website if you'd like to check out the GTF page there. Hope this helps!
www.froggie.info

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Happy Frogging!!!

~Becki~

Becki, do you think something like a barking tree frog could happily live with a similarly-sized GTF? I'm asking because I can't see anything wrong with it, although I'm not the one who'd know, and at least many people who want to mix would be satisfied at that.

Chesh, I honestly am not greatly familiar with barking TFs so I don't want to speculate about that imparticular situation. I do know that greens and grays have been "successfully" housed together but there are still territorial issues. I, personally, would not mix any species as I can't see where it would benefit the frogs in any way at all - so why do it? I just see no purpose. There are alot of species of frogs I would love to have but do not have room for more tanks for them - so I do without. To me, trying to mix is taking a chance that something could go wrong and it's not worth the risk to me. I just place a very high value on every living being's welfare and will not take any unnecessary, avoidable risks. I know it sounds as if I'm preaching, and I don't mean to come off that way. We all have certain issues that we just feel strongly about and hold very close to heart and this - to me - is one of those issues. And I have yet had any one person be able to give me a good, validated reason for mixing species......and I've asked quite a few people. Sorry for such a lecture and not even to have answered your question.
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Happy Frogging!!!

~Becki~

Well, as I was just wondering, you really did answer my question. All I know is that while I do not feel the same way for every situation, I do think it's very important to really think about what you're mixing. For example, I've read in several places that greys are mildly toxic. I don't know if it applies to frogs or not, but that right there is enough reason that I wouldn't attempt in mixing them just because of that, unless I could find out if it affected other frogs.

The main reason I asked about barking TFs is that I know they are known to interbreed with GTFs in the wild, and there are similar-sized specimens available, and they obviously inhabit the same regions... So I figure that if someone wants to mix, that would be the best way to go. Not that there's any reason anyone SHOULD mix. It certainly wouldn't be beneficial.

So, thank you very much for your opinion and response. I really want to see what comes up in this topic

I don't see any reason to press the issue. Mixing species has been shown time and time again to be detrimental to the animals. If you are not capable of buying another large sized aquarium to house the species separately, then you shouldn't have the animals in the first place. If you can't afford a tank, then you can not afford a vet bill, which your animals WILL eventually need (you tell em Becki!).

So why ask a bunch of "what ifs" when it shouldn't be an issue? It is impossible to recreate even a simple ecosystem in a 30g, and no regular visitor to this forum should be under any illusions that is possible.

The argument I have constantly made is: if you actually care about the animals, then don't take the risk by mixing the species.
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Colchicine, I don't see any harm in asking the "what if" question, and I don't see a simple inquiry as pressing the issue.

Anyway, this is by no means something I personally intend to do. I'm asking this for two reasons. The first just being curiousity, just purely asking for answers to things that I'd like some enlightening on, and learning a little more about barking tree frogs of which I don't know much. Also, just that so many people come in here determined to mix SOMETHING with their present tree frog. I feel that if they're going to do it anyway (after persistent discouragement, many still are), at the very least have them do it with one of the more compatible species.

Also, there is the possibility of someone who is able to both pay for a huge enclosure (maybe the size of a room or two) and want to have it devoted to frog species living together, without them eating or killing eachother. Or someone who'd like to partially re-create an existing ecosystem, such as the SE United States. It's not like the information would hurt to be given, so please don't sound as if I asked a stupid question, because I'm one of those who are convinced that there's really no such thing.

Anyway, basically, it's not something I intend to do now or later. It's just something I'm curious about.