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Can someone please let me know which lines of ghosts are compatible, and which lines are not. Thanks, John

From what I understand - most lines are all compatible with the exception of Grazianis G1 Hypo and probably GCRs Citrus Ghost - but there are a bunch of new ones imported every year - so if you aren't sure you should ask before you buy!
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Tosha

the G1 has been proven to not be compatible with the orange ghost so more than likely it is not compatible with most of the other lines as well. However, the citrus has not been crossed with any other line as of yet so nobody can say whether it is or isn't compatible. Yes it looks different than other lines but that is mainly due to the fact that GCR bred the original male citrus into a genetic high gold animal (which is why the citrus hets look sooooo good as well). They continued breeding the high golds into the line reinforcing the high gold coloring into the hypo animals. Having talked with Chris and Sheila many times about this, they think it will prove to be compatible as the founding male looked more like a blonde ghost than what they have made the morph into through strict selective breeding. The great thing about the genetics of ball pythons is what we have all learned, you can't assume anything until it is proven out.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

about the citrus ghost. I bred my citrus to both of my het orange ghost females this year. I had the same question and wanted to find out the answer for myself.

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Greg Power
B.O.A. Inc
boainc@gmail.com

that's a very nice looking citrus. I bet he is smoking in person?
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

I have never been impressed with the Citrus Ghosts. Maybe it is the pics, but they look like a high gold ball, and not much more to me.

Dave

much better looking in person, the pics are not very good. I also have orange and yellow and think the citrus is the best colored of them all. I understand where your coming from though, I mean they are not an ember or sulphur! LOL
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Greg Power
B.O.A. Inc
boainc@gmail.com

"...They are not an Ember or Sulfur..."

And don't you forget that

I have seen several pics of the Citrus ghost, on ads and in forums, and have never seen one that looks better than a run of the mill Orange Hypo. Too me, a catchy name does not make a better Ghost. I will wait to judge them for sure, until I have seen one in person.

Dave

Sorry couldnt resist after all the crap I have seen you take on those guys. You never know what will happen with something a little different until you try breeding it out, tak a look at the Lori ball! I will try and get you some better pics maybe even a group shot.
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Greg Power
B.O.A. Inc
boainc@gmail.com

Yeah, I do not mind taking cr@p for the project, my pictures do suck, I just hate the bandwagoners, and guys who have a rescue Ball and all of a sudden are the top genetic expert on Ball Pythons.

On a similar note, the 05 Embers ate their first large rats tonight, kind of stoked. I feed a bit small...but figured it was time.

you are saying this does not look better than a run of the mill orange ghost? Heck he looks better than 90% of the orange ghosts out there. He looks 20 times better in person and those that have seen him know that. show me a pic of a screamer baby orange ghost that has grown up to hold half the color they had as a hatchling.

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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

This was my orange Ghost male before he was stolen in a breeding loan gone really bad.

Dave

This is my orange ghost now.

Dave

they are pretty snakes, but the citrus have just as much blushing and fading but with the added bright yellows and oranges. We should see some crosses from them this year and I think when they get crossed with pastels, we should see a vast difference from the orange ghost hypo's. The problem with citrus ghosts is that they are extremely hard to photograph and there is not alot of people that have adults that have reached their potential. And I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience with the breeding loan, there are too many jerks out there that could care less about what you put into that snake. I hope your breeding season is going good. We should have eggs in bout 2.5-3 weeks from a female bred to a vanilla and another bred to a spider and have a 1700g female het pied that is building and hopefully will ovulate soon and quite a few of other snakes that have bred multiple times. Keeping our fingers crossed for a good year, 10-15 clutches will hopefully be in the incubator by june.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

Yeah, but the breeding loan got worse, he also finally gave me back my female Ghost, after months of me asking, and she came back with an RI and died within 10 days. He admitted she got sick at his place, but told me she was taken to the vet and treated. Really sucked, I loved that female Ghost.

I will have to look at some Citrus Ghosts at a show. Yours does look about as good as I have seen. Shoot me some baby pics if you hatch any out. Have you seen the G-1 Pastel Ghost? Awesome.

Dave

Hry Josh, nice citrus! I will have to get some group shots for you guys.
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Greg Power
B.O.A. Inc
boainc@gmail.com