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Does anybody believe that these could possibly be 100% River Road?
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=29&de=478342
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South Texas Herps

IMO no.

Back when I lived in Gainesville, Fl and Ben's shop was in Ocala I would frequent it often. Basically he is large Petshop supplier, and got his animals from the S. Fl importers and trades off anybody. I doubt those are RR, and he would never check out locality. I am sure he just took the word of whoever he got them from.

Not a chance. If there where a RR animal in there in the past it was so far back, any influence has long past.
Later
Rick

I caught a 277 male in Loma Alta with a nuchal pattern like that back in the late 90's. I say 277. Anyone that thinks this a River Road ................well,.......... must I say any more?

PET SHOPS!!!!!! geez!! Pretty snake though

Wayne

Maybe the Devil's River, or Pecos River!
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"I got out of the business because it's almost impossible to do business without breaking a law some place, whether you knowingly do it or not."
Tom Crutchfield

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAX!!!!!! What's up??? Decided to come out of hiding on the forum huh??? See you at the NARBC???? I'm sure you can get out of the house for that event!

Wayne

What day are you going to be at the NARBC?

Take Care,

Steven

Since I have to work on Saturday, I will be there Sunday at some point. Not sure exactly what time. I have to go to Godley TX and remove a very large Western Diamondback from a ranch that is terrorizing and biting the horses, so I have other business up that direction. I would say around noon time on Sunday actually, maybe a little sooner.

Wayne

Hey Wayne,
I might show up for an hour or so...
Probably see you there.
Is it spring yet? I've been hibernating
Max
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"I got out of the business because it's almost impossible to do business without breaking a law some place, whether you knowingly do it or not."
Tom Crutchfield

MAX,...............you've been hibernating ever since I have known you!!!

Wayne

I have a 05 Blairs from 277 that looks almost identical to the one pictured. But looks can be deciving. Clark

Looks alot like my River Road female (F1)

Link

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h127/SSuperiorSSerpents/Kingsnakes/LomaAlta05CB1.jpg

A newer photo

If that is the same snake (I didn't go back and look), the URL site says Loma Alta. That should put the possible RR locality to rest. If it is a different animal, and not from Loma Alta, it still does not look anything like a RR animal.

Cheers, hugh

You are right. I was thinking Loma Alta the entire time. I sold my RR GBKs. I should have kept quiet. Sorry about that.

I caught a RR blairs in '97, its pattern was more irregular and its "gray" was browner. It also had 16 bands.

I also bought a pair of RR blairs from Ric Blair in '98, one had a darker "typical" RR gray, alternates, and very split nuchal. The other had no alternates and a split nuchal. Both snakes had 18 bands.

I wouldn't say that that snake is outside of the realms of RR's potential, but I also wouldn't bet on it being pure. Personally, if I can't at least trace the snake back to some one who I consider a reputable breeder of locale animals, I don't care what it looks like, I wouldn't consider it locale. By preference, I'd like to trace it back to its wc ancestors.

Troy

I agree Troy.

I think I was there the night you caught that RR Blair's. Didn't you also catch a milk the same night and Dave Long caught an albino suboc?

yep, that was a good night. We also found a lepidus. I have to wonder if I hadn't stopped to take a leak, if I wouldn't have caught the albino suboc, too - Dave was still in the road with the snake in his hands when we rounded the bend.