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Here is a piece of information from Brian regarding his strain of Albino boas. To clearify some obvious misinformation out there.

"The female albino boa that started the Sharp strain was a Colombian boa, not Central American, and was born in and imported from Colombia in 1991."

Please email Brian and not me with any questions regarding this information.

"The female albino boa that started the Sharp strain was a Colombian boa, not Central American, and was born in and imported from Colombia in 1991."

I don't doubt that that is true, but I have always hypothesized that the original Sharp strain may have been a true BCC. What do you guys think about that possibility.
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Thanks Vinnie Caruso
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Looking at the true Suriname Albino BCC I would disagree. There is a MUCH different appearance to that animal than to either of the Colombian strains. The Colombians, as well as a true Mexican Albino that did exist have at least a similar look. (I lost contact with the person in Mexico after failed attempts to purchase, it had health issues and was going to be put in a breeding project. Not hearing back after a year I expect it died, with the help of another party we tried to acquire it in the fall of '05.)

Not at all.....it is imperator all the way....Silvia from Colombia exported the first four which are all known as kahl strain, she remembers she sold them to Cal Zoo for good money, but not enough she says now, lol.
The Sharp came from her biggest competitor originally, Robinson's farms. He remembers when he exported it.

Let me rephrase that.....
they are imperator in everyones eyes......scale count wise though all "colombians" are bcc.....I have counted a few dozen farmed babies and they coincide with bcc

>>"The female albino boa that started the Sharp strain was a Colombian boa, not Central American, and was born in and imported from Colombia in 1991."

Never had a doubt myself. But i do doubt true Colombians are either imperitor, or constrictor ssp. At least, I've never had one hit the right scale counts. EVER
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Oh contraire, they do hit the scale counts perfectly well and fit exactly into one of the already defined subspecies. For some strange reason many folks have a mental block and unwillingness to accept them for what they are. They do not fit into imperator scale count wise but are perfectly content to slide right in comfortably exactly where they belong. That is all Colombian Boas are, were, have been and always will be, where they fit perfectly as Boa Constrictor constrictor. Count the scales. That is what they are. The original descriptions do not define where BCC comes from specifically but what they are. Someone misguidedly decided long ago that because the Colombian Boas, whose urine would run someplace other than into the Amazon River, must be BCI and not BCC. That is not described anywhere in the original descriptions so it is irrelevant. Sure non-Amazon Basin Colombians are different from Surinams or Brazilians, but Peruvians are different from Surinams, yet they are still BCC. So unless you use some other measure to determine BCC from BCI, the original descriptions are clear and point to the fact that all Colombian Boas are BCC. That is unless someone defines them differently, scientifically, and it is accepted by the scientific community after exhaustive review. Until then, Colombians scale count wise, are BCC.

I have said this for years.

Of course the original Sharp Albino came from Colombia and the 3.1 Albinos that made up the original Kahl Albino bloodline came from Colombia. I had never heard anything to the contrary.
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very informitive.
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Thanks Vinnie Caruso
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I respect what you have to say Jeff. You have done much for the community, and I have read many, what seemed to be, well educated threads posted by you. To include that one you linked above.

I'll not disagree with what you have to say, (I in fact agree with some of it), but I will say I have several Colombians that miss the ventral counts by 3-6 scales in excess. Though the rest do in fact fall within the BCC counts. But I am hardly a biologist, and very new to breeding.

That being said, perhaps I have been misinformed in what i have read. Would you happen to be able to direct me to the "original" documentation? I would really like to read that info.

Thanks
Rick

hope this helps

>>hope this helps
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"The Living Boas" by Jerry G Walls, pg. 54...........I refer to this book often. My ventral counts still miss what's stated for BCC though. LOL And have for years.

Not trying to argue, just trying to be properly informed.

Thanks for the info though. Nice to see people willing to help out these days.

Rick

Very cool, Jeff!
I also remember seeing colombians listed as BCC years ago.
That makes sense.
It also makes sens ethat they'd be more closely related to animals on the same land mass as they.