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snake "how to" speech...pics plz?

frostypaws Feb 09, 2007 09:18 AM

I'm taking a public speaking course in school this semester and one of the speeches we're doing is a "how to". Sooo therefore my speech is somewhat along the lines of "how to keep a snake as a pet". It's only going to be 4-6 min long, but I just wanted to ask you guys what you think I should include and/or how to keep a general audience interested in a short speech about snakes. There is a woman in my class who is absolutely terrified of snakes but she told me at the same time, she thinks they are interesting. I guess that seems to go for a lot of people.

Also I was going to make a Power Point to show while I speak, and was wondering if anyone has some pictures I can use? Like some good shots of constricting prey, eating, plus anything else really. I took some of my corn but don't know how good they'll come out. Thanks in advance.
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0.1 ball python (Kilimanjaro)
1.0 amel corn snake (Houdini)
0.0.1 leopard gecko (Charlie)
1.1 cats (Kitty & Milo)
0.1 mouse (Creepers)

Replies (7)

wpglaeser Feb 09, 2007 09:34 AM

Look above the advertisement bar, and there is a link to the "Photo Gallery". Jillions of pics there that should be considered "public domain" and therefore usable without explicit permission. Just give credit to the web site in your Bibliography.

Also, my daughter did a project on her corn snake for her elementary school class, and some of the things that they enjoyed included:

1. Passing around an intact shed skin. (in a ziploc bag for the squeamish)
2. Pictures/explanation of their feeding including constriction is of the most interest to people. If they allow you to bring your snake as a "visual aid", they may be interested in actually observing it eat a F/T mouse..
3. What makes a good vivarium/setup. (hides, heating, cold vs warm side, rough objects to help with shedding, water, etc)
4. Interesting snake "facts"
5. Reasons why they're such good pets (don't bite, clean, gentle, quiet, easy maintenance, low cost to aquire/keep, longevity)

Good luck! Let us know how it goes!

Walt

PHWyvern Feb 10, 2007 08:40 PM

>>Look above the advertisement bar, and there is a link to the "Photo Gallery". Jillions of pics there that should be considered "public domain" and therefore usable without explicit permission. Just give credit to the web site in your Bibliography.
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No they are not public domain. Copyright notices are not required to be included on a piece to show that it is indeed copyrighted..has been many years since the change from when copy notices were required. Photos and other fixed pieces of work are always to considered to be copyrighted material unless the photo contains information that otherwise states it to be public domain by that photo owner. If you want to take photos belonging to someone off of a website in order to use them elsewhere you still need permission from the owner of those photos first otherwise it is stealing.

Here's a rather interesting article that a lot of people should probably read on this very subject:

Are you a copyright criminal?

Towards the bottom of that article is a very pertinent section...

The Web is a particularly alluring temptress, beckoning with its wide selection of easily accessed content -- clip art, fonts, audio files, stock photos -- that promise to breathe life into your presentations. If you're vulnerable to the lure, remember this: Just because materials are on an "open" Web site doesn't mean they're in the public domain and free for you to download and reuse or copy.

"Too many people still assume that because it's freely accessible on the Web, it's freely available to reuse," says Professor Bell. "The right for you to view something on the Web is different from the right for you to display or perform it on your own site or presentation."

To be in the public domain -- and free of copyright complications -- information on the Web must have been placed there "expressly or deliberately" by the copyright owner himself, most obviously with an accompanying note saying, "I grant this to the public domain." Plenty of copyrighted works have been posted to the Web without authorization of the copyright holder. If you reuse that information without permission, you're breaking copyright law. Lack of knowledge about whether the information you take from the Web has itself been illegally copied or posted is no defense.
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PHWyvern

draybar Feb 11, 2007 02:06 PM

>>>>Look above the advertisement bar, and there is a link to the "Photo Gallery". Jillions of pics there that should be considered "public domain" and therefore usable without explicit permission. Just give credit to the web site in your Bibliography.
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>>No they are not public domain. Copyright notices are not required to be included on a piece to show that it is indeed copyrighted..has been many years since the change from when copy notices were required. Photos and other fixed pieces of work are always to considered to be copyrighted material unless the photo contains information that otherwise states it to be public domain by that photo owner. If you want to take photos belonging to someone off of a website in order to use them elsewhere you still need permission from the owner of those photos first otherwise it is stealing.
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>>Here's a rather interesting article that a lot of people should probably read on this very subject:
>>
>>Are you a copyright criminal?
>>
>>
>>Towards the bottom of that article is a very pertinent section...
>>
>>The Web is a particularly alluring temptress, beckoning with its wide selection of easily accessed content -- clip art, fonts, audio files, stock photos -- that promise to breathe life into your presentations. If you're vulnerable to the lure, remember this: Just because materials are on an "open" Web site doesn't mean they're in the public domain and free for you to download and reuse or copy.
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>>"Too many people still assume that because it's freely accessible on the Web, it's freely available to reuse," says Professor Bell. "The right for you to view something on the Web is different from the right for you to display or perform it on your own site or presentation."
>>
>>To be in the public domain -- and free of copyright complications -- information on the Web must have been placed there "expressly or deliberately" by the copyright owner himself, most obviously with an accompanying note saying, "I grant this to the public domain." Plenty of copyrighted works have been posted to the Web without authorization of the copyright holder. If you reuse that information without permission, you're breaking copyright law. Lack of knowledge about whether the information you take from the Web has itself been illegally copied or posted is no defense.
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>>PHWyvern

Thanks for posting that, Wyvern
I have been trying to tell people this for years.
They think just because it is on the internet it is free for anyone and everyone to use. That IS NOT THE CASE.
If you wish to use any photos that are not your own, YOU MUST GET PERMISSION.
If you wish to use someone's text, such as a care sheet, YOU MUST GET PERMISSION.
So simple.
I've had quite a few of my photos "stolen" for use on other web sites or even for sales adds. This just isn't right.
And the really bad part is witha simple request and promise to give credit where credit is due I would have been more then willing to let them use my photos.
I even had to get on someone for cutting and pasting my Red-Foot Tortoise care sheet onto their web site as if it was their own.
I was flattered they wanted to use it but I was also upset when I first found out about it. They have since corrected the problem and given credit where credit is due. We have actually had a couple of nice conversations and I respect them greatly.
I think it was a simple missunderstanding of the laws.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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STEVES_KIKI Feb 13, 2007 01:15 PM

I'M sorry for using your cohabitation post when needed, i just thought i was helping you out... we all cant read every post on here- so sorry if i offended you- still friends??
~kin
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~Sober Serpents~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNAKIES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Corns:
.1 Normal (Gertrude) [just a pet...she started it all]
1. Orange normal (Romeo)
1.2 Miami Phase (Hector, Emily, Charlotte) thanks jeff!
2. Miami Phase part zigzag (Starkey, Mcvitty)[Emilys F2]
1. Amel het Blizzard (Dunesbury) .1 Blizzard (Detta)
1. Classic het Hypo, poss het Amel, Anery (Cobra)
1.1 Classics (Henry VIII, Cassy) [Emilys F1 babies]
.1 Sunglow Amel (Pepperoni)*1. Sunglow coming soon!
1.1 Hypo zig zags poss HET Caramel (Bernard, Abegail)
.1 Hypo HET Stripe (Gracie Lou) 1. Hypo Stripe (Gideon)
1.1 Anery HET Motley (Lleroy, Persia)
.2 Candy Cane (Peaches HoneyBlossom[Just a pet], Tamale)
1.1 Abbotts Okeetee (Albert[Charlottes son], NO NAME)
1.1 Snow (Crickle, Isis) .1 Green Snow (Maya)
1. Caramel poss HET Butter (Topher)
.1 Anery stripe (V) [husbands snake...he named it]
.1 Orange Reverse Okeetee (Lonna)
1.2 Bloodred HET Amel 1. Amel HET Bloodred

Others:
1. Black rat (Willard)
1.1 Striped Cal Kings (Dweezil, Skunky)
1. High-white Reverse Spotted Cal King (Wishbone) *.1 soon!
.1 Albino Stripe Cal King (Eve)
.1 Banana spotted/stripe cal king (Speckle) Thanks Jeff!!!
1.1 Thayeri (Giuseppe[MSP], Cheyenne)
1.1 Creamsicle HET Motley(Orangejello, Genevieve)
1. Creamsicle motley (Montey) Thanks Jimmy!!
1. Albino Striped Jungle Corn (NO NAME)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~LIZARDS~~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 Blizzard Leopard Gecko(Blitz)
.1? High yellow Leopard Gecko(no name)
1. Bearded Dragon (no name)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~TURTLES~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 white cheeked mud (Opel)
.1 snapping turtle (Snappy Jaws)

draybar Feb 13, 2007 02:23 PM

>>I'M sorry for using your cohabitation post when needed, i just thought i was helping you out... we all cant read every post on here- so sorry if i offended you- still friends??
>>~kin

Of course we are friends !!!!!
Please continue to post it whenever you see it is warranted.
I definitely want it to get to as many people as possible.
It is only my opinion but I do feel it carries some good points to consider.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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phiber_optikx Feb 11, 2007 12:12 AM

You are free to use these if you want. Not great pics but they are pics none the less.....





Just let me know if you decide to use them....
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.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
.1 MO Locale Black Ratsnake "Molly" (Flogging Molly)

"You saved my life! I'm gonna get you so many lizards!"

frostypaws Feb 11, 2007 05:08 PM

Thank you. I am planning on using your pics. What I'm doing is just making a slide show to play while I give my speech. I have some pics of my own snakes, but I really like the shedding one, that's a great picture.
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0.1 ball python (Kilimanjaro)
1.0 amel corn snake (Houdini)
0.0.1 leopard gecko (Charlie)
1.1 cats (Kitty & Milo)
0.1 mouse (Creepers)

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