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Back in 2003, a relative of mine took this picture just a few hours before I showed up at the campsite. He had been hiking up a hill and saw this big bruiser.
His friend called it a 'red racer'. Well, its not.
Most of you will guess right away, but I scoured that hillside for hours after that, lemme tell ya.

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...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

Might help to narrow it down a bit, if you can give us a state.
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phflame
kingsnake.com host

Well, the State is a dead giveaway - kind of...
I'll give a clue, though...
Limestone hills, ashe juniper, and a canyon setting.
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...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

Wow!!,...looks like a sort of "brindle" type Black Ratsnake to me!! very cool find!!!,...................................Doug
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Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!

n/p

>>Back in 2003, a relative of mine took this picture just a few hours before I showed up at the campsite. He had been hiking up a hill and saw this big bruiser.
>>His friend called it a 'red racer'. Well, its not.
>>Most of you will guess right away, but I scoured that hillside for hours after that, lemme tell ya.
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>>...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

I would have to say that is a very very nice bairds rat snake.
too bad you couldn't find it.

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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The snake was found in Garner State Park in TX hill country. There the ranges of the TX ratsnake and the Baird's rat overlap.
My first thoughts were perhaps an intergrade, but the longer I looked at it, the more I am convinced its a bairdi.
Anyway, that's my guess, too.
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...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."