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just so you guys know i am teh one that was told about the bull snake rattle snake crosses in both Montana and Nebraska this is not a joke and Game and Parks in both states have proof of this cross. i have seen the LIVING proof

Do they give birth to half live born, half eggs?
Please post some pics!

By the way, here's a photo of the FL swamp ape...another urban legend.
Chris

LOL Good one Chris! You cracked me up thanks Tom

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Cornsnakes and kingsnakes and gophers oh my!

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Chewy

You know that chupacabras don't lay eggs. They bear live tadpoles, which then go through a flying larval stage before dropping their wings and becoming adults.

a good fake possibly. one is a live bearer and the other an egg layer.....a physically impossible combination. somebody is messin' w/ you.

Next you'll claim that you met a literate Cajun from extreme south Louisiana. I'd believe that first....lol.

KJ (from extreme south Louisiana)

YOU GUYS ARE ALL NOTHING BUT JERKS I KWOW WHAT I SAW AND I WORK WITH TEH PEOPLE TAHT FOUND THEM, CALL ME A LIAR YOU GUYS ARE A**HOLES

hahhahah! i am sure id rather be an a$$ hole than a complete moran. you need to learn a few things about snakes before you start calling these fine people a$$ holes. this has to be the absolutley stupidest thing since the the wolf successfully mated to a bald freakin eagle (LOL) i would love to see your proof. oh and no need to call me an a$$ hole i already know. especially to airheads. have a great night and please find some other completey dumb story for me to laugh at
max draper

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this proves it and if i am a lair the so is teh GAME AND PARKS for Montana and nebraka

...and we all know Yankees don't fib.

Watch it now...southern boy.

I'll have to go with Chris on that one...watch it there you Southern... LOL...

>>Watch it now...southern boy.

To be correct, it is "southron," but I wouldn't expect you guys to know that....lol.

this proves it and if i am a lair the so is teh GAME AND PARKS for Montana and nebraka

Haha try spelling first. It is a rather fun concept and allows you to be understood more easily (without the fancy decoders). If this urban legend is true, then I will shave my entire body, cover myself in honey, and run into a bee hive while wearing just my birthday suit for cover. Please feel free to have the wardens post as well...we are always looking for more entertainment. Andy
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Andy Maddox
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Who are you who can say it's ok to live through me? Alice In Chains

Andy, if you do this, perhaps you can be a sideshow for the next ETHS show. LOL!

Billy Fraser
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Genesis 1:1

It would be MUCH better than some of the other speakers they've tried to get.

F-I-R-S-T !!!

>>YOU GUYS ARE ALL NOTHING BUT JERKS I KWOW WHAT I SAW AND I WORK WITH TEH PEOPLE TAHT FOUND THEM, CALL ME A LIAR YOU GUYS ARE A**HOLES

My feelings are urt. This is the first time anyone in this forum has ever called me a bad name. (Hey, as long as we were making things up.....)

If it is true, PROVE IT. Send or post your full name for reference, and the names of at least 2 people from each angency that saw it so I can call and verify what you are saying. Also, what muesum was it stored in and what is the preservation number.

Hey, DC saw aliens, but without the probe scars, who is gonna believe him? Prrof is in the evidence. Sorry.
KJ

that the population of Jackalopes (cross between a Jack Rabbit and an Antelope)was taking a sharp downhill turn. Since there was nothing that previously preyed on them (because of those fearsome horns), they decided to investigate. One of their biologists was out in the field one day and found a dead Jackalope. It was freshly dead and had fang punctures, but seemed to be somewhat bloated. Upon further investigation, it was found that it wasn't actually bloated, but INFLATED! It seems that the Brattlers (Bull-Rattler crosses) have a habit of hissing while biting, which inflates their intended prey items. Then once they track down the dead animal it appears much larger than they thought, so they don't eat it. It is suspected that they'll all starve.

The taxonomic classification will be Crotalophis hybridus impossiblicus. I'll have some for sale on the SemiVenomous Classified Forum today. Hermaphrodite pairs will be $30,000.00.

i think brattler would also describe the original poster of this thread.....$30,000 is a little steep isn't it oh? can you cut me a break on a reverse trio?

Sure man...no problem. A reverse hemaphrodite trio will run you..oh.let's see...$30,000.00 $15,000.00 $6,000.00 shipping and handling....less discount (99%)...plus tax (104%) How about $51,000.00? But wait! That's not all...if you order today, I'll DOUBLE your order! Yes, that's right you get not 1 reverse trio but 2!! And that's not all either!! Just for ordering now I'll also throw in throw in FREE OF CHARGE 100 Jackalopes for food! You heard me! 100 Jackalopes! Free! And, as if that weren't enough, I'll also give you a free Jackalope deflation tool! Now, this is a total value of $379,899.00! All for $51,000.00!! And, for the first 50 people who call in, I'll knock off an additional $1,000.00. Just call it an even $50,000.00. Just call 1-800-GIMME$$. Operators will be standing by to take your order. Small unmarked bills only, please. Send them in an unmarked package by overnight Fed-X only, please. The operator will give you the address. Please hurry. I've already charged my airline tickets to my credit card.

it'll take me awhile to put together that kind of cash......but i'm in! btw oh, it was the deflator offer that sold me.....haha

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Andy Maddox
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Who are you who can say it's ok to live through me? Alice In Chains

Don't sugar-coat it. Say what you mean.

btw F*** ALL OF YOU.

Why don't you mention this cross on the Hybrid forum. I'm sure the professional mutt-makers will appreciate your story, even though they will also know that this cross is not possible.

What did you expect, by the way? You come on here using a screen name apparently intended to lead people to believe that you are Kathy Love (was that to lend credibility?), and make these outlandish claims. Anyone that has even a remote knowledge of the two snakes in question knows without even thinking about it that it is just biologically impossible for the two to successfully cross-breed. You claim to have irrefutable proof, but don't provide it. Do you think that merely telling us that you have proof will prove it? Sorry, like Kjun said, that don't cut it. SHOW the proof, don't tell us about it.

Then because you have made somewhat of a fool of yourself with this you get angry with us for making fun of it? What else are we supposed to do with it? There's certainly no way it's going to be taken seriously. You should be angry at the people that are feeding you this garbage. From what cesspool of misinformation did they dredge this $hit anyway? If they really believe it, they have an incredible lack of knowledge about the biology of snakes, and biology in general for that matter. These snakes belong not only to two different genera, but to two different families. It just ain't happening. Your buddies are smoking crack. It really is like saying cows and elephants are interbreeding.

If you want to learn the REAL stuff about snakes, chill out and hang around in here for a while. If you want to talk about wild-a$$ myths and legends then go talk to your buddies. I'm sure you'll hear the one about the water skier falling into a "nest of cottonmouths" and being bitten 300 times and being dead before the boat could get to him. Or, the one about the kid digging fishing worms and digging up a nest of baby rattlesnakes and being bitten to death because he thought they were earthworms. There's about a hundred stories like that that have been around forever. Intertaining I suppose, but not a shred of truth. Stories about snake rolling up into hoops and chasing people down, then stinging them to death with their tail, stories about snakes stealing milk from cows, whipping people to death with their tails, you name it. If the uneducated human imagination can dream it up, there's a story about it involving snakes. One would think that with all we know in the 21st Century, some of these would start to lose credibility by now.

So...be angry if you want. Your choice. Or hang around and learn something. Just remember that you are in a forum full of people that work with snakes and breed snakes every day of their lives and have a LOT of knowledge on the subject.

i never said i was Kathy love and even if i showed you my proof you would not believe me any way. and i will get my info on bull snake care else where a**holes

N/P .... and you say were being the jerks. Welcome to life!!!

Ok....the thing that may need to be dealt with is the fact you say you have proof. Ok.....what is your proof? Simple as that.

The fact you are flying off the wall so fast is giving us here some clues as well.

As far as getting info about bulls elswhere, go ahead. Even though we have had to put up with your immaturity here, I would say " We" even though I can't speak for others, so I better say " I ", would be willing to help you out with any questions regardless. The people who frequent this forum probably care more for pits than anyone else, so this may be a great place for info.

The thing for proper communication is called respect and maturity. You have shown none, so that is why you are at the roadblock you have created here.

Take care!
Billy
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Genesis 1:1

If you showed me actual proof, then I would have to believe you. That's what proof does...it proves things. If a thing can be proven, then you have to believe it. THAT'S the way it works. I don't think you can, because I don't think proof of this exists. I'm calling you out. Put up the proof or shut up. You have gotten on here and made these claims, been told (correctly) that it can't happen, called everyone on here vulgar names, made vulgar comments to everyone on here, and still have shown no evidence whatsoever to support what you are saying. If you intend to keep that attitude, then please do go elsewhere. We don't really need to have to deal with childish attitudes here. If you need help with a problem, advice on care for a snake, or any other legitimate thing, then anyone in this forum would bend over backwards to help you even now, after you've showed your butt. But I don't think anyone on here wants to deal with some bored teeny-bopper with no parental guidance and nothing else to do. This isn't a baby-sitting service.

So, show the proof or drop it. If you want to hang around, we are more than happy to help you with whatever you need help with, but clean up the attitude and show some respect or please take it somewhere else.

YOU WANT PROOF GO TO MONTANA AND TALK TO GAME AND PARKS YOUR SELF. YOU F***ERS

Do my virgin eyes decieve me? Was that the "f" word. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha lol lmao. Watch ur lingo!!! Jerk.

Gopherlover(evan)

Well, I suppose that tells the whole story. Of course, there is no proof. If a thing doesn't exist, then proof of it's existence couldn't possibly exist. So now we have someone who has made a claim they can't back up, having claimed to have actually personally seen this thing that doesn't exist, pitching a hissy fit because they have been called out and can't back up their claims. Pretty typical actually...even down to the vulgarities. A total waste of time (we already knew that before we started this little debacle), but it was fun for a while.

By the way, KornKween, the burden of proof was never on us. YOU were making the wild claims, not us. It was YOU that said you had actually SEEN one of these "Brattlers" with your own eyes and had proof, we just asked you to provide the proof. Do you expect people to just believe things like this because you say it's so? It's like telling us the moon is purple with yellow floral patterns tonight, then pitching a fit because we want to look for ourselves instead of taking your word for it. We tried to tell you before all this started (the first time you posted this nonsense) that it just wasn't true, but you insisted it was. It was up to you to prove it existed, not up to us to prove it didn't. So why are you angry? Do you have anger management issues? Could we recommend a good therapist for that? There's no need to yell, we're right here. No need for vulgar names..we can all communicate our points without that.

ALLRIGHT!!!!!!!!!

Here is what all of us here in the pit forum will do.
Me, oldherper, KJ, gopherlover, etc. are going to go to our local airports, after buying our tickets to Montana. Then we will fly, each from our respected cities, to Montana. Then, we will rent a car...drive to where the game wardens work...I guess any office will do....this after we get a hotel each. Does Montana have any Adams Mark hotels? Anyways....then we will get up in the morning, drive to the game warden's offices, then after we are properly introduced in their offices....ask them about whether or not they know CornQueen, which of course they will then threaten us with a lawsuit for wasting their time...then we will ask after apologizing profusely, about seeing the proof about whether or not an egg laying Montana bullsnake produces young with a live bearing Montana rattlesnake.

On the way home on the plane...each one of us here on the pit forum will be very happy in knowing that we did the right thing..and very happy in knowing that we followed what you wanted us to do.

LOL!

Grow up please.

Billy
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Genesis 1:1

OK Billy. I'm with 'ya. Already got my tickets. See 'ya there!

Hey, I got an idea!

Maybe we all can share a room to cut down on the costs. Imagine this: Me, you, Ginter, Meltzer, Shannon Brown, Jason Nelson, Kemper, KJ, John Cherry, Gary Ballam, Terry P., Del, Gregg Feaster, and whoever who are regular posters, all in our mission to see if CornQueen is true, which he probably is..cough..cough...all in one crowded room, for the sake and cause of this issue.

That would be a lot of laughter, farts, arguing over ruthveni, united discussions of hatred against hybrids, etc. LOL!

Billy
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Genesis 1:1

Sounds like a hoot to me! I'll bring the beer, you get the pizza. I'll bet after 30 minutes we forget why were were there to begin with.

Yeah...we probably will. The thing is...then we will all me together spending quality time talking bout pits!~ See...cornqueen's stupidity led us all to be together!
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Genesis 1:1

Yeah...we probably will. The thing is...then we will all me together spending quality time talking bout pits!~ See...cornqueen's stupidity led us all to be together!
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Genesis 1:1

i won't forget to bring my golf clubs that is....cause i'm not spending the day locked in a hotel room w/ all you guys drinking beer....unless of course, daryl is gonna be there! LOL! [sorry dc, couldn't pass it up]

I hear they are moving southeasterly. I think we already need permits in South Dakota to collect and possess them. You can only breed them noncommercially. Has anyone determined if they are venomous?

>>Hey, I got an idea!
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>>Maybe we all can share a room to cut down on the costs. Imagine this: Me, you, Ginter, Meltzer, Shannon Brown, Jason Nelson, Kemper, KJ, John Cherry, Gary Ballam, Terry P., Del, Gregg Feaster, and whoever who are regular posters, all in our mission to see if CornQueen is true, which he probably is..cough..cough...all in one crowded room, for the sake and cause of this issue.
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>>That would be a lot of laughter, farts, arguing over ruthveni, united discussions of hatred against hybrids, etc. LOL!
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>>Billy
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I haven't posted in a while but gosh, someone forgot to tell me we need a permit to collect them here in So Dakota! Why, I have a whole herd of them roaming my back yard! (And they say there are no rattlers east river! Hah! Brattlers are even worse!

And the jackalopes here are crazy. My ex-daughter-in-law ran one down with the car and did close to $2000 damage to the car, the jackalope loped away! We had a couple from NY terrified when we told them to beware of them stampeding! Guess some folk will believe anything!

ROFLMAO

Marcia

You need to get a permit, but they don't know yet if you need a special venomous permit or a threatened species permit. We're lucky that corn queen gave us the heads up or we could have the same situation your ex-daighter-in-law and others are running into with the Jackalpes. LOL.

Terry Parks

>>I haven't posted in a while but gosh, someone forgot to tell me we need a permit to collect them here in So Dakota! Why, I have a whole herd of them roaming my back yard! (And they say there are no rattlers east river! Hah! Brattlers are even worse!
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>>And the jackalopes here are crazy. My ex-daughter-in-law ran one down with the car and did close to $2000 damage to the car, the jackalope loped away! We had a couple from NY terrified when we told them to beware of them stampeding! Guess some folk will believe anything!
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>>ROFLMAO
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>>Marcia

I think the required permit is called a "Non-existent Species Special Collection Permit". It covers both venomous and non-venomous non-existent species, so Crotalophis hybridus impossibilus or The Western Diamondblotch Brattler is automatically covered. The MOST important thing to remember is to bring your deflating tool with you, in case you are accidentally bitten and inflated by one. They do hiss profusely while striking, so being inflated is a real danger.

GOod one. i couldnt have put that any better!!!
Gopherlover (evan)

I own an antique store and the customer who came in and caught me with tears rolling down my cheeks from laughter didn't understand the herp humor!! ROTFLMAO!!

Marcia

at the Daytona show this weekend. I live in Bakersfield, CA and someone has developed a technique that he calls Self-Deflating. He also teavches CPR. The paramedics have been required to take the Self-Deflating class for over a year now. When were they going to tell us. LOL Just in - it just came over our locale news that someone was cited today for not having a Non-existant Permit. He was stopped by the Fish and Game and when the wardens determined he didin't have a snake in possesion, he was cited under the non-existent permit regulation. The Fish and Game went to his house and confiscated all non-existent snakes.

>>I think the required permit is called a "Non-existent Species Special Collection Permit". It covers both venomous and non-venomous non-existent species, so Crotalophis hybridus impossibilus or The Western Diamondblotch Brattler is automatically covered. The MOST important thing to remember is to bring your deflating tool with you, in case you are accidentally bitten and inflated by one. They do hiss profusely while striking, so being inflated is a real danger.

...and those freaking things were everywhere.(lol) Instead of the farmers having us shoot praire dogs and other varmits we were shooting those(lol). Ill be sure to bring the guns along to. Just incase there is a threatening hiss in the bushes acompannied by a rattle. And once again I crack myself up.

Gopherlover(evan)

I don't blame her for having an attitude. Some of you came right out of the gates with your condescending "holier than thou" attitudes acting the bigshot. You came off like a wiseass right off the bat like a wildcat waiting to pounce on it's prey.If you already know the answer, then why are you so vigorously pursuing an admission from this girl. Will that make you feel like a bigshot? I think it will make you look really insecure. So what if she's wrong. Give it a rest. You're beating a dead horse.
Lastly, you said, and I quote, "If you want to hang around, we are more than happy to help you with whatever you need help with, but clean up the attitude and show some respect or please take it somewhere else".

First of all, to get respect you have to give it. After reading your first couple of sarcastic and condescending posts, I don't think she or anyone else will be running to you for help.

I referred to the original poster as "she", judging from the username. If it's a guy, my apologies. I meant no offense.

Don't get upset...I don't think you read back far enough...she(he?, whatever)started all this under a different screen name, and we ALL DID try to gently break it to her (him?) that what she was saying wasn't possible. Then she came back under the CornQueen name or whatever and became simply "venomous" (like that one?) over it. Then we had some fun with it. I'm still having fun with it. If she won't listen, then I have to believe one of two things:

1. She (he, whatever)is really a troll and never really believed all this in the first place (very likely), in which case having fun with it is wholly justified.

2. She really does believe it and refuses to believe otherwise in which case having fun with it is wholly justified. This possibility is very unlikely, because anyone that is really that dense is too dense to remember the proper sequence for normal respiration and probably couldn't live this long anyway.

However, just in case she really was simply a misled person who refused to believe the truth when being told by multiple people that should know, I left room for the benefit of the doubt and made it amply clear that if she wanted to stop calling names and acting like an idiot, that we would be perfectly happy to "start over" and help her (him, whatever) with whatever they needed help with.

I don't recall saying anything at all to you. And...I don't think I have anything else to say to you. I stand by what I said to her. Every word of it. If you don't like that, then....well...let me think for a second...nope, by Golly, I just don't care.

poo, sorry but oh is dead on. she was politely and tactfully informed of the facts in the very beginning.....next day i come online and she's calling everybody an f--king a--hole!?! huh? whu?.....she's gotta go! besides, i'm lmao over here reading this stuff! crotolophis? deflators? c'mon, old herper is capturing magic here!! it's like old milwaukee......it doesn't get much better than this!

Magic? Are you for real? I'll tell you what I see. I see someone who made a mistake , got beat up for it by people who seem to feed on vulnerability, and then lashed out in response to the needless sarcasm and condescention. Many people have their own defense mechanism for dealing with humility. Cornqueens is obviously using foul language, lol. Fun is fun, but enough is enough. Ganging up on someone percieved as weaker or less intellegent in the eyes of certain self proclaimed "bigshots" is something insecure bullies do. Some people here are simply hobbyists with no background in biology, geneology etc. Exactly how old were you guys when you first learned that those two snakes were not compatable to breed? You weren't born with that knowledge, were you? I'm not trying to start a flame, I'm just trying to make a point. I simply don't think that some of the supposed mature herpers here are setting a very good example.

read all of the threads involved here. This isn't for real. There's no way the person who started and propagated this thing really believes this stuff..it's trolling at it's best.

You do bring up some interesting points, though. You are correct, no one is born with knowledge, biological, zoological or otherwise. It has to be learned. The only way you learn is by reading and by listening to other people who know. Another thing that you aren't born with, but should be taught by your parents at an early age, is how to listen. That does not include calling the people who are answering your questions vulgar names. The problem here (if this were, in fact, for real) is that there were no questions really asked, just claims made. Now, you can't tell me that a person that has no knowledge of the subject also doesn't KNOW that they have no knowledge. If I heard that NASA was fueling some of it's rockets with Coca-Cola, I might find a website that deals with rockets and ask if it's true. However, I would know going in that these people know a LOT more about rockets than I do or ever will. If they tell me it ain't so, I'm certainly not going to argue with them about it and then claim I have proof, then start calling them vulgar names when they refuse to agree with me.

As for the fun we have been having with the subject, well...exactly NONE of that was directed at CornQueen, none of it was addressed to her and none of it really had anything at all to do with her. We simply found a subject we could have fun with and did just that. The other aspect of this thread was a moot point anyway...a dead issue if you will, which had not a thread of validity to begin with. We had addressed her claims directly to her and were done with that part. We were talking back and forth to each other and we are allowed to do that. And, by the way, we will continue to do so if the mood strikes.

One can only learn from someone who possesses the proper teaching skills. You obviously don't. If you are a teacher, and this is how you treat your students, then God help the system. The "fun" you've been having is at the expense of the original poster and you know it, whether you choose to admit or not. If that makes you feel like a bigshot here and you manage to impress anyone here by beating this thing into the ground with your sasrcasm, so be it. Lastly, you can continue to do as you like, as will I. If I choose to disagree with your child-like posts, I will. By all means, carry on funny man.

nobody is ganging up on cq here. she's doing a good enough job of that herself. if you're reading the same thread we're writing, you'll see we're laughing at the idea and expounding hilariously on it.....nothing more. you were laughing at it in several places yourself. sorry you seem to think that the class got out of order. ??? anyway, it's mostly oldherpers fault.....he's the one coming up w/ most of the good stuff and causing the ruckus. the rest of us were just led astray temporarily. if i knew he would turn out to be just a sleazy deflator sales rep from the beginning....i would never entertained his antics. i know better now......

"You were laughing at it in several places yourself".

Funny, I just checked and I couldn't find one post in this thread where I condoned any of the sarcasm(I'm sorry, I meant "fun" with a response. In any case, I'm finished entertaining this. You have your opinion and I have mine. The difference is, my opinion isn't biassed in order to keep from jeopardizing a relationship with certain individuals that might be deemed as the upper crust of the herp world. I personally can afford to speak "freely" because I'm not hung up on what anyone thinks of me. Perhaps that's an unlikable trait in itself...whatever. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps I'm right...who knows? My apologies for ruffling so many feathers. I will no longer antagonize this thread with my frivolous posts. As Bill O'Reilly always says..."you have the last word. Toodles

isn't that you laughing your a$$ off?

I was laughing at cq. I want you to find where I was laughing at any of you. Get it? You alluded to the fact that I was laughing at you guys. Was trying to discredit me worth it Dan? Would you like to continue? Perhaps I'll take back my "last word" statement and carry on if you really want to. Your choice.

what are you talking about now chris? my point was and still IS that you we're laughing at the humor on 8/13....and you were. then the next day you are telling us all to knock it off and you don't see any humor. ????? you contradicted yourself and i'm merely pointing out the facts as they are PLAINLY printed here. how is this an attempt to discredit you for God's sake? where did that come from? PLAIN AND SIMPLE, my point is---it is NOT your job to moderate the behaviour of this forum or to impose your limits on the humor, sarcasm, social behaviour, etc. on the rest of us....if you don't mind, we can decide for ourselves what is funny and what is not ok? just lighten up and please stop lecturing us if it doesn't have to do w/ snakes!!! we were all having a good time till you had to go and throw a wet blanket on it thursday night. did it ever occur to you why you keep having to change your user name all the time? it's because you go around seeking out confrontations in every forum out there, getting kicked off, having to re-name yourself to get back in and it's gotten old. go tear up the boa forum or wherever....i don't care but when you start telling ME how to conduct MYSELF ....then you're seriously out of bounds! just keep it to snakes and you'll do fine. we're all big boys and girls here now and do not need your guidance on life's other issues. we really don't and we're really not interested.......plain and simple. LIGHTEN UP SOME!!!

Have it your way bigshot. I wanted to drop this, but...

Once again, my point is that I was not laughing at the humor. My post(LMAO! post), if you look at it with your good eye, was in response to CQ, not the "humor" that has been entertaining YOU! Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Furthermore, I don't ever remember telling anyone here how to conduct themselves, I simply disagree with some of the motives here. I have that right just as you do. I certainly never told you how to conduct SQUAT, so stop twisting and playing with words here. Also, I am NOT trying to "moderate" anything, wiseass! I believe it was YOU who said, and I quote, "she's gotta' go". Hmmm, that sounds more to me like a wannabe moderater. Who made that your job?

Now, since you brought it up, let's discuss the name changing. How bout we start at the beginning. If I recall, it all started with you bashing the crap out of Fred Albury to me...constanly egging me on and complaining and cheerleading over the phone. That was the main cause of my getting kicked off so many times. How many times did you tell me that you were gonna' give Fred a piece of your mind, yet refrained from doing so in fear of ruffling the "Core's" feathers? You were content to watch me do the dirty work while you sat back and laughed and cheered. You fueled that fire every step of the way and you personally gave me the ammo to go after Fred with the stories and the "info" you collected from your Dry collegues! How dare you come on here acting the innocent and insinuate that I'm the big troublemaker. Isn't it funny how you never used this much energy on Fred. Perhaps if I was a "Dry" keeper, I would be exempt from your retaliatory posts as the others are. You have alot of nerve pal! Next time Fred or the guy you mentioned on the Racer forum pisses you off, don't call me!!! Now I for one do not care to further elaborate on any of these issues. If you want to continue this "discussion", perhaps we should pick a more suitable forum where we could discuss this and perhaps other provocative issues .

you apparently wrongly posted under kemper's drama queen post but that is not the actual problem here. i don't know what part of this you don't understand but people don't need or want your advice on non-snake issues!!! honest to God! maybe you're not aware that you're doing it but it has become an unwelcome specialty of yours.....hence the constant need for name changes as you get blocked out on a weekly basis by the webmaster, forum after forum. chris, doesn't that tell you something? anything??? maybe it's you, not them? ever think of that? even helen keller could read the writing on that wall! however, if i feel the urge to expound on brattler humour in the future, i'll clear it w/ you first ok? i'm aware that you have already issued the edict that 'enough is enough' but i think there's still some laughter left in that one and i'm hoping against hope you'll allow me that one small favor if i think of a good one. l-a-u-g-h-t-e-r.....look it up, it has a much different meaning than the word m-o-t-i-v-e, whatever that was supposed to mean. you got a fertile imagination cause all we were doing was having a good l-a-u-g-h. sorry you mistook it for something more sinister but you read something into it that was clearly not there......once again.

Man you are thick! Kingsnake put the post where it belongs. It is in response to CornQueen!!!! It was placed under Kemper's post. IT IS NOT A RESPONSE TO KEMPER!!!!!! Let me remind you that I never asked for your opinion and never addressed you until you opened your big mouth. The "Drama Queen" here is... you! You've managed to make this about...you. I've got news for ya', it's not about you! I voiced an opinion and that's that! You're the only one here frail enough to be so affected by it. I don't think Oldherper gives a crap and I'm pretty sure he'll sleep well tonight, as will I. And if Oldherper is reading this, you have my apologies if I seemed abrasive or over-reacted. As for you Dan, mind your own business! You're pretty cocky and accusatory for someone with the skeletons that you're concealing Mr. Doright. Project BB ring a bell? Remember that next time you try to enforce a negative image of me on this public forum with the petty and weak "user-name" stabs. I'm WILLING to drop this now. I suggest you do the same.

Chris Kennard

I changed my user name from poosphere because I forgot and/or lost the password, not because I got the boot. This isn't the first time I changed my user ID for that reason.

you are too much dude....see ya.

no i am not the one to post the question first a freind of mine did jerks

How can you expect respect when you act like 5 year old? At least everyone here has a little more sense than to sit here whining about people being "jerks" and "pooheads"for lack of curse words) and ect. We told you what we thought, you came back and opened a whole new can of worms. What did you expect would happen?
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Andy Maddox
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Who are you who can say it's ok to live through me? Alice In Chains

thank you

For what? Defending you when you are wrong and did wrong to the forum? Haha...What a joke! Andy
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Andy Maddox
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Who are you who can say it's ok to live through me? Alice In Chains

did somebody miss their nap and get cranky? let me say this about that....these guys forgot more about bullsnakes than you're ever gonna know. but if you must persist maybe you should change your name to 'bull queen'. btw, nice mouth little one......

We all know that I dislike corns, but I feel DRAMA QUEEN is much more fitting.

I can't type heheheh

We all know that I dislike corns, but I feel DRAMA QUEEN is much more fitting.

LMAO!!! You tell em!