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how hard is it to find them, and how much do they cost.
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jake

my addiction:
0.2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
1.0 albino cal king (zeus)
0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
hybrid breeders association
hybrid haven

To the best of my knowlege, they don't exist. There's at least one breeder working with striped Miamis - the stripe gene and motley gene have been shown to be interrelated.

The definition of a Miami, like the definition of an Okeetee, is somewhat controversial, which further complicates matters. Since both types are naturally-occuring color phases, the probability of "pure" striped or motley Miami or Okeetee corns is pretty small.

Tim

Third Eye

It's the Miami Stripes that are proving difficult to produce. I have 1.2 breeders in my collection and another pair of holdbacks from last year. I don't have pics of the youngen's but here are some links to my adults...

http://www.lowbellyreptiles.com/BreedingStockpages/MMM.htm

http://www.lowbellyreptiles.com/BreedingStockpages/FMM.htm

http://www.herpregistry.com/acr/p/6/1269.jpg

Don S. also has some stunning Miami Motley animals posted in his photo gallery, but the way it is set up, it's hard to link directly to the page. Just scroll the cornsnake morphs and they are under -Motley (Miami Phase)

The run between $100-$150.
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Carol Huddleston
www.lowbellyreptiles.com

You'll have to cut and paste.
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Carol Huddleston
www.lowbellyreptiles.com

'FMM' is too nice. Without question the BEST Miami Striped-Mot I've EVER seen.

I've seen, in person and in photos, THOUSANDS of Corns and that snake eeeeeasily makes my 'Top 10 Ever'.

Is it any wonder your site says 'waiting list full' for her offspring. lol

Congrats on an amazing collection overall.

BB

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"Have you hugged your drummer today?" --- Me

There are very few corn snakes out there that will make me go "WOW", but the striped (Striped motley?) miami Carol has posted pics before is one of them...Simple amazing :*)

But also to be pefectly clear, I make no claim they are "Locality" animals. They are Miami"Phase".
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Carol Huddleston
www.lowbellyreptiles.com

AS ALWAYS- YOU HAVE LOVELY CRITTERS. thanks for sharing carol!!!

~kin
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~Sober Serpents~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNAKIES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Corns:
.1 Normal (Gertrude) [just a pet...she started it all]
1. Orange normal (Romeo)
1.2 Miami Phase (Hector, Emily, Charlotte) thanks jeff!
2. Miami Phase part zigzag (Starkey, Mcvitty)[Emilys F2]
1. Amel het Blizzard (Dunesbury) .1 Blizzard (Detta)
1. Classic het Hypo, poss het Amel, Anery (Cobra)
1.1 Classics (Henry VIII, Cassy) [Emilys F1 babies]
.1 Sunglow Amel (Pepperoni)*1. Sunglow coming soon!
1.1 Hypo zig zags poss HET Caramel (Bernard, Abegail)
.1 Hypo HET Stripe (Gracie Lou) 1. Hypo Stripe (Gideon)
1.1 Anery HET Motley (Lleroy, Persia)
.2 Candy Cane (Peaches HoneyBlossom[Just a pet], Tamale)
1.1 Abbotts Okeetee (Albert[Charlottes son], NO NAME)
1.1 Snow (Crickle, Isis) .1 Green Snow (Maya)
1. Caramel poss HET Butter (Topher)
.1 Anery stripe (V) [husbands snake...he named it]
.1 Orange Reverse Okeetee (Lonna)
1.2 Bloodred HET Amel 1. Amel HET Bloodred

Others:
1. Black rat (Willard)
1.1 Striped Cal Kings (Dweezil, Skunky)
1. High-white Reverse Spotted Cal King (Wishbone) *.1 soon!
.1 Albino Stripe Cal King (Eve)
.1 Banana spotted/stripe cal king (Speckle) Thanks Jeff!!!
1.1 Thayeri (Giuseppe[MSP], Cheyenne)
1.1 Creamsicle HET Motley(Orangejello, Genevieve)
1. Creamsicle motley (Montey) Thanks Jimmy!!
1. Albino Striped Jungle Corn (NO NAME)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~LIZARDS~~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 Blizzard Leopard Gecko(Blitz)
.1? High yellow Leopard Gecko(no name)
1. Bearded Dragon (no name)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~TURTLES~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 white cheeked mud (Opel)
.1 snapping turtle (Snappy Jaws)

Kin, I think it is time to cut down your signature. Like Jimmy once told Big Tom(where is he by the way?), it is hard to find your post. You say one sentence and your signature is a whole page!! lol.
Of course, my signature would be the same if I listed all my animals
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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"Life is Killing Me"

I saw Tom yesterday. He still reads these posts (he gave me a "talking to" about my rack building post, as to what the components of melamine are).

Tom is thinking of getting out of the hobby. His female bloodred died and he really likes those bloodreds.

I FINALLY found the South Mountain gallery (I was looking at the pricelist before). Don's Miami motleys, as well as Carols, are fantastic! I did not imagine that they'd look that good.

Could a motley Okeetee be in the future?

Tim

I guess I'm a glutton for punishment and long painful projects. LOL.

I was pleased to inherit this project from Clint Boyer. Here is an Okeetee "Phase" het Motley, and a Motley female from the project.
www.lowbellyreptiles.com/BreedingStockpages/Dash.htm
www.lowbellyreptiles.com/BreedingStockpages/LiveOnly.htm
I got a pretty nice bordered Motley male from these two last year, but most of their offspring were fussy feeders. (It was a father X daughter breeding).

This year I am pairing the female Mot with a killer Okeetee with great color and boders.(I'll have to work on getting his pic uploaded) The male het Motley is going to be bred to a Hurricane Anery Mot that has extremely wide BLACK borders around her little Motley "circles". Both pairings should improve the line in vigor and looks. I'm also growing up a super R.O. to introduce to the line as soon as he's big enough.
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Carol Huddleston
www.lowbellyreptiles.com

Good luck!

I hope you post your results. Yes, I'd imagine that motley Okeetees are a long, drawn out project, but somebody's gotta do it!

Tim

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Carol Huddleston
www.lowbellyreptiles.com

That's a beautiful example of "Miami" type "zig-zag".....I wish more people knew about all the different types, and HOW they got their names!.....know what I mean?..............Doug
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Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!

they do exist, check south mountain reptiles photo gallary.

also i know they wouldnt be pure so dont get all technical on me.
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jake

my addiction:
0.2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
1.0 albino cal king (zeus)
0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
hybrid breeders association
hybrid haven

Now, now, I never said that they didn't exist. I said that "To the best of my knowledge..."

I then implied that it's possible that Miami motleys may be around, due to striped Miamis being in existence.

"Pure" is not a technical term - it's pretty straightforward.

I checked South Mountain's site and did not see (and still do not see) Motley Miamis. I looked in both the motley section and the Miami section. Where are they in the photo gallery?

Tim

Third Eye

in the photo gallary just open up corn morphs and they are right in the midle of the list.

heres a link http://www.cornsnakes.net/photogallerylr.php i dont know if it will bring you directly to what im trying to show you.
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jake

my addiction:
0.2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
1.0 albino cal king (zeus)
0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
hybrid breeders association
hybrid haven

i meant they are in the middle of the motley list

the link doest get you to the picture.
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jake

my addiction:
0.2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
1.0 albino cal king (zeus)
0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
hybrid breeders association
hybrid haven