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Hey everyone, I'm a newb to thayeri with a few question. I'm looking at getting a new kingsnake in about a month. I was planning on a gray band or cal king, but then I remembered these guys. Where I'm going to be purchasing my snake, they have nuevo leonis and san luis potosi kingnsakes. Are these a kind of theyeri, or something else? Also, i can't find a good caresheet. I know the basic setup, but could someone please fill me in on tank size and temps? Thanks a bunch for any help!
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1.0 Hypo Tang Leopard Gecko
1.0 Giant Jungle Albino Leopard Gecko
0.1 Normal Leopard Gecko
0.1 SHTCT Baldy Leopard Gecko
0.1 SHTCT Leopard Gecko
0.1 High Yellow Lavender Leopard Gecko
1.0 African Fat Tailed Gecko
0.1 Crested Gecko
1.1 Cornsnakes
1.0 Ball Python
1.0 Sinaloan Milksnake
1.0 Kenyan Sand Boa
0.1 Rubber Boa

Nuevo leon kingsnakes or variable kingsnakes are all names used for thayeri thayeri. The proper name is "lampropeltis mexicana thayeri". There are three primary phase's of thayeri, The milk snake phase the leonis phase and the melanistic phase. The milk snake phase and leonis phases are pictured.

The San luis potosi kingsnake is what we commonly call mex-mex. That name comes from its proper name "lampropeltis mexicana mexicana". I'm sure someone will post a pic of a mex mex and maybe a melanistic.

Hope this helps.

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Vichris

Vichris Variables

What size tank would you suggest for an adult? Do they require different temps than other kingsnakes? Thanks!
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1.0 Hypo Tang Leopard Gecko
1.0 Giant Jungle Albino Leopard Gecko
0.1 Normal Leopard Gecko
0.1 SHTCT Baldy Leopard Gecko
0.1 SHTCT Leopard Gecko
0.1 High Yellow Lavender Leopard Gecko
1.0 African Fat Tailed Gecko
0.1 Crested Gecko
1.1 Cornsnakes
1.0 Ball Python
1.0 Sinaloan Milksnake
1.0 Kenyan Sand Boa
0.1 Rubber Boa

If using a glass type tank a 20-30 gal would work fine. As far as temps, if you can offer a gradient between 65-85 and let them choose what they want, is ideal.

Choose carefully when buying thayeri. Several people on this forum have bought "thayeri" that were not thayeri or only part thayeri. Your initial questions have aroused my curiosity.
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Vichris

Vichris Variables

here is a pic of the melanistic phase

Drool, drool, drool! Man, I want a pair of those sooo bad.
I'm on the Pottstown Reptiles waiting list for a pair, I've got my fingers crossed that it pans out. Thanks for the pics.
-Phil

Lots of pics are available here:

http://www.sierraherps.com/gallery/index.html

Good luck!

Bob