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I have noticed an ad for a "bateater" python and have never heard of this before...does anyone know what species this is?

Bateaters aren't a species, but a hybrid between burmese and retic pythons. I'm not sure where the name bateaters came from, possibly their freaky appearance. Most of them look like evil burms to me.
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Chance Duncan
www.rivervalleyexotics.com

Thanks Chance, I was wondering if all of a sudden a new species existed that I hadn't heard of. they look kinda cool.

I believe the term was first used by Joe Berraduci (sp?) at the old reptile dealership known as "The Shed" bsck in the late 70's to early 80's with his partner, Louis Porrez. Louie is still around, Joe's in Africa, I believe.
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It was Albert Killian back in 1983 who was responsible for producing the first burmese X retic hybrids here in the U.S. It was an accidental, and not an intentional breeding. Back then some people called them Burtics, but the bateater name was the one that stuck. Crutchfield claimed that the first one that entered the U.S. around this same time was a wild caught, but that was never proven conclusively from what I remember. Some others believed that it came in from Europe.

Kelly

Kelly...didn't we have this conversation before? I know the Shed was selling them.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.0 Woma
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.1 Savu
1.1 Juvie Bloods
1.1 Juvie Balls
1.1 IJ Carpets
1.1 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
1.0 Jungle Carpet
2.2 Scrubs (on breeding loan)
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

I guess the question on them was whether they were wild caught as Crutchfield stated, or captive born from a source in Europe. The ones Killian produced were just the first ones known to be actually captive born in the U.S.

Kelly

Tom may not even remember. He's had a few issues to deal with since then. Good to talk to you again...I think I even have some old emails from you.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.0 Woma
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.1 Savu
1.1 Juvie Bloods
1.1 Juvie Balls
1.1 IJ Carpets
1.1 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
1.0 Jungle Carpet
2.2 Scrubs (on breeding loan)
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

I remember seeing the first one at the 83 symposium in Dallas . Crutchfied and Hank Molt were walking around with it in a jar playing the what is it game. Ernie Eison

That's like at Daytona last year, looking at NERD's Ball python/Woma cross.... Does it have heat pits? Yes.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.0 Woma
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.1 Savu
1.1 Juvie Bloods
1.1 Juvie Balls
1.1 IJ Carpets
1.1 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
1.0 Jungle Carpet
2.2 Scrubs (on breeding loan)
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

From what I have seen Kevin at Nerd has produced more borneo bat eaters than anyone I know, and one of the first to do it. Regards, Big Jim