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New leaftail, henkeli or sikorae??

Smith710 Feb 14, 2007 12:12 AM

I just got this girl today, I've done as much research as I possibly could, but I can't find how to really tell the difference between the henkeli or the sikorae?? To me, it looks more like a sikorae because they seem to have more of a mossy look to them that I have seen. It was sold to me as a henkeli, but I'm not sure how much the people really know about these. It's about 4.5 inches svl and about 7.5 with the tail, she also weighs 22 grams. Heres some pics.... Either way she is the coolest thing I've like ever seen! What do you guys think? Either way, do you think $120 is an ok deal for this girl?






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1.0 savannah monitor
0.4 leopard geckos
2.2.5 crested geckos 2 eggs
0.1 common boas (BCI)
1.0 ball python
0.0.1 western hognose
0.1 kenyan sand boa
0.0.1 golden tree frog
0.0.1 fire belly toad
0.0.1 Sulcata tortoise
0.0.1 desert hairy scorpion
0.0.1 texas millipede
1.2 sugar gliders 2 joeys in pouch
0.1 chinchilla
2.0 cats
0.0.1 African Giant Black Millipede
0.0.1 Pac Man frog
10 gallon freshwater
LOTS of roaches

Matt Smith
Exotic-Adventure

Replies (5)

Smith710 Feb 14, 2007 12:13 AM

Oh, and if you know what it is, WHY is it that and not the other?
Thanks
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1.0 savannah monitor
0.4 leopard geckos
2.2.5 crested geckos 2 eggs
0.1 common boas (BCI)
1.0 ball python
0.0.1 western hognose
0.1 kenyan sand boa
0.0.1 golden tree frog
0.0.1 fire belly toad
0.0.1 Sulcata tortoise
0.0.1 desert hairy scorpion
0.0.1 texas millipede
1.2 sugar gliders 2 joeys in pouch
0.1 chinchilla
2.0 cats
0.0.1 African Giant Black Millipede
0.0.1 Pac Man frog
10 gallon freshwater
LOTS of roaches

Matt Smith
Exotic-Adventure

ingo Feb 14, 2007 11:53 AM

Its henkeli, because it looks like henkeli and not like sikorae :D
I also bet that it is already larger than an adult sikorae.

Ci@o

Ingo

erinmarie Feb 14, 2007 02:21 PM

I have no clue what it is, but I just wanted to say that it's one cool loking lizard! Congrats!

smith710 Feb 15, 2007 02:56 AM

Alot of people are saying that sikoraes have a yellow ring around their eyes and she doesn't.... Is it only with some sikoraes or is it with all of them? I'm still getting about half and half with sikoraes and henkelis. People keep telling me it's definately one and others are 100% sure it's the other. Here's some pics of the sides of her head, as close as I could get.



flamedcrestie Feb 26, 2007 10:58 PM

I just wanted to post this here, in case someone reads it here, and doesn't see it on the other gecko forums....

I'm still getting about half and half with sikoraes and henkelis. People keep telling me it's definately one and others are 100% sure it's the other.
First off, maybe you should be asking people who know something about Uroplatus. Anyone that knows anything about Uroplatus would tell you 100% positively that the animal in question is a U. sikorae.

It's one thing to buy something on a whim, and know what you've got, but the person selling the animal to you should at least be able to tell you what species it is.
U. henkeli have a bit broader head, are about 3 times the size of sikorae, and will never be the color pattern that your U. sikorae has.
As previously stated, the eyes are different, and I believe your photos show this quite apparently. What yellow 'ring' don't you notice?

After reading my post and realizing it may sound somewhat rude, I decided to snap some photos of each species, to try to help you recognize the differences. Sometimes I forget that I may have had the same questions a few years ago when starting out with Uroplatus. The best way to learn, is to examine as many photos of the different species as possible in your free time, and hope that whomever has taken the photos, actually knows what they've got.

For starters, an adult U. henkeli female, not colored up, in about the plainest color pattern you can find. When she colors up, you can see the leopard like pattern pretty much all over her body. The pattern can faintly be seen if you look closely.

Next, an adult U. s. sikorae female with a banded color pattern. Notice how the center of the eye is darker, and the outer 'ring' is yellow

Next, let's shoot for a size comparison
U. henkeli on the left, U. s. sikorae on the right

and finally, the eyes....
U. henkeli eye ( can be more gray, and will turn pinkish when coloring up)

U. s. sikorae eye, typical example ( photo courtesy of my wife Sarah ( while I was creating this thread))

These are some of the most obvious differences to point out, and a few of the things you can analyze to distinguish between the species.

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