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Hey all,

I've been lurking on this forum for quiet some time now and have seen all the quality responses people get. I figured I'd ask the group for thier advice on this one.
We are about to move into a new house and right now it looks like thier might be some space considerations. As of this point in time we have 3 balls , a gopher, a pine, 3 leapord geckos , and two bearded dragons. The dragons are staying in thier tanks in the upstairs living room but we've decided to move everyone else downstairs into the rec room. The whole basement isn;t as wide as we would have liked and we don't want to have 40 galloon breeder tanks every where. So the first question is, what is the minimum size enclosure a ball is going to need as an adult. My adult is in a 40 breeder at the moment and seems like she couldn;t be happier. We want to get everyone on one wall, in a show piece kinda set up that won't completely break our bank acount. Does anyone have reccomendations? Racks are out of the question because we want people to be able to come and see everyone and breeding is a secondary consideration at this moment in time.

Any thoughts? any good links?

~Mrez

Well my oppinion from past experience is get ready to spend some money for a display unit for your snakes, it will actually cost more than a rack system unless you make a display unit yourself , you say you have more than one ball and if you are like most of us you will purchase more since they are so addictive, and a good snake to keep, you must also rember that balls just like most snakes only really come out under the cover of darkness or when they are hungry and looking for prey to feed on.

Do you have good, or at least decent, building skills? Being able to do it yourself would make a big difference in any answer/advise I can give you.

Also, how deep do you want/need the cages to be? 24" deep cages are nice, but if you need them to be tighter to the wall 18", 16", and possibly even 12" deep cages would work, but would need to be longer to add the needed floor space. 36" x 24" cages that sit about 12" high would be large enough for almost any adult BP. The pine, and the gopher snakes could fit in this size as well, but a little bigger (48" x 24" and maybe taller would be better. The leos cage would depend on if they are kept singly or in groups.

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2.5.0 ball python
1.1.0 100% het pied
1.0.0 Blond Pastel
0.1.0 Spider
1.1.0 columbian boa
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
1.1.0 corn snake
0.1.0 Chuckwalla (Jamie)
0.0.2 Bearded Dragon
0.0.1 crested gecko
1.0.0 leopord gecko
4.0.0 Quaker parrot (Woody)(Liam)
1.0.0 Landseer Newfoundland (Mac/Newfy)
0.0.5 whites tree frog (trevor, kirmet)
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy

"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

The absolute smallest tank a ball can be kept in is a 20L tank. Twenty gallons, long. I wouldn't recommend it if you have active snakes or very large snakes, just cause they seem cramped, but my lazy female did great in one for many years. Unless you have a gigantic ball or one that's constantly out and about, a 20L would probably be all you need per snake.

I honestly am fond of the vision cages, but they're not exactly the cheapest ever. I believe you can find them on the LLL Reptile site.

Hope that helped!

~jenny
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1.2 normal ball pythons (Cindy, Darwin, and Periscope)
0.2 rescue chinese water dragons (Yoni and Linga)
0.0.1 Mountain Horned Lizard
1.0 rex rat (Scurvy)
1.0 gerbil (Yerbul)
0.1 mice (Cute Girl Mousy)
0.1 bunny (Spazz)
1.1 betta fishes (Vicious and Killer)
2.2 great danes (Shasta, Odysseus, Merlot, and Watson)
1.0 fat fuzzy mutt (Smokey)
1.1 cats (Thidwick and Turtle)
3.0 horses (Buddy, Sam, and Scout)
1.0 goat (Billy Jack)
0.0.1 chupacabra (it ate our chickens)

jenny.thegreenes.org