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More midnight questions....

FireDrake Feb 17, 2007 06:49 PM

ok, what is the difference between murphy patternless, patternless and blizzard? Sorry for all the questions, I am new to leos.... is there a website with good solid morph descriptions I could check out?

THANKS!!!

Sarah
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Replies (3)

begunwithaletter Feb 18, 2007 01:44 PM

Murphy patternless geckos were one of the very first 'morphs' to pop out during leo breeding.

You can get albino patternless geckos as well, in any of the albino strains (Tremper, Las Vegas, what-have-you)

Blizzards are completely different than patternlesses, and I can tell you right now that midnight blizzards are not 'patternless' morphs, they are actual blizzards. Mine stays darker than any other blizzard I've ever seen, even when she's lightened up.

If you want a good site for checking out info on morphs, vmsherp.com has explanations for all of the morphs that they work with, and they're pretty detailed.

skmcwilliams Feb 18, 2007 09:14 PM

Very nice Midnight....Also to answer your question Fire Drake, I will hopefully have a small number of midnights available later this season so I will post them on KS when they are available. Thanks

CSHerps Feb 19, 2007 02:22 AM

Murphy Patternless & Blizzards even though both don't have a pattern are seperate simple recessive trait morphs. If you were to breed Murphy Patternless to Blizzard you would get Normal looking offspring that carry the genes for for both traits.
You can see the most difference between the two when they are hatchlings. The Murphy Patternless hatch out with a brownish raindrop looking pattern that fades away as they grow up while the Blizzards hatch out totally paternless from day one. There are also other suttle differences between the two.
Now Murphy Patternless are often sold as Patternless. Not to confuse things here there is also a designer Patternless mutation. It was the Patternless used in the APTOR morph. To my knowledge the designer Patternless mutation is line breed as opposed to the Murphy Patternless & Blizzard simple recessive traits.
A good book to read that really goes in depth with alot of the morphs is Ron Trempers "The Herpetoculture of Leopard Geckos".

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