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Odd situation with female Western Hog

Suncoast Herps Feb 18, 2007 10:22 AM

I recently brought my animals up out of brumation and began feeding. About two days out of brumation, two of my female Western Hognose dropped clutches of infertile eggs. Has anyone ever had this happen? I have been working with colubrids for a lot of years and have never experienced this before.
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John Schmitt

Suncoast Herpetological

Replies (2)

FloridaHogs Feb 18, 2007 04:02 PM

I have had easterns drop fall clutches before. I have one female western that laid a great clutch in Janurary.....
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Jenea
Guardian Reptiles

"The beatings will continue until morale improves!"

markg Feb 20, 2007 05:00 PM

When keeping Cal kings in a large enclosure together over Winter, the big male and big female stayed coiled together much of the time. Something you can't see in racks where animals are kept separate. The female layed eggs that Spring. I have no idea when she became pregnant.

A researcher of many years has seen wild females gravid in Winter (kingsnakes). He theorizes that, depending on conditions that year, there is no reason why females cannot be gravid. I know, this is the Hognose forum, but I can't help but wonder.

Just because we keep snakes according to some cookbook method doesn't mean that we maximize their potential as breeders. Perhaps in the wild, early clutches may be more common under certain conditions, while in our one-box-per-snake-rack systems, it is virtually nonexistent. (BTW, I'm just throwing out ideas to ponder to the masses. I don't know how you keep your snakes persay, and I'm not saying I know how to do it better than you or anyone else.)

What would be really interesting is if you kept some animals in groups in a larger enclosure over the Winter and during Spring to see what would happen. Maybe those infertile clutches you saw in Jan, wouldn't be infertile? Fun to try and see anyway.

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