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Just want to see if I know how to post pics. These are from my glauerti who just laid her 2nd clutch in 5 weeks. This time I was ready and prepared for the eggs. Got 7 in this clutch.
Thanks Keith

nest site

laying, about 2 feet into tunnel

all covered up

7 eggs, 5 in nest, 2 she dropped half hour after covering up


back to normal, she just ate 2 fuzzies and two discoids

Good job. It is always nice to see good nesting pictures.
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Ed

Very cool Keith. Shoot me an email. Cheers

of bad news and it seems I am a lot. But the first five eggs appear to be bad, some real bad, some a little bad. The bad news is, its rare(rare means it can happen, but don't bet on it)for anything but perfect eggs to hatch.

The last two eggs, could be good. As I have seen many kimberly lay underdeveloped eggs that hatched. Underdeveloped means near unfertile appearing. They normally lay large white full eggs(at least the ones that hatch regularly)

Let me take a wild guess, the last two eggs were laid after you dug up the first five. Thats why they are clean and white.

I truely hope I am wrong and they hatch.

Also that appears to be a poor nesting, as its not very deep. When a healthy female has strong fertile eggs, she makes a strong effort to nest them securely. Deep, down and hidden.

Now that you had them nest, you need to understand because they did, does not mean its good or sufficent. You do understand if you kept the cage dry they will nest in the water bowl.

Please keep in mind, everything your monitor does is telling you something. The fine details of what they are saying is hard and not often understood. But it does start with this, bad eggs means something is wrong.

The good part is, they will give you many oppertunities to figure it out. Hopefully you will before she fails, and they always fail. Cheers

"But the first five eggs appear to be bad"

In person, two of them are tan/little brown, but the other three look white, just covered in lots of sand and dirt. They all may be no good, but I will incubate them any way. If anything, I will learn and gain experience.

"Let me take a wild guess, the last two eggs were laid after you dug up the first five. Thats why they are clean and white."

Yes and no, she laid them after covering the nest, but before I dug anything up. She laid them on the opposite side of enclosure, above ground after she had a drink.

"Now that you had them nest, you need to understand because they did, does not mean its good or sufficent. You do understand if you kept the cage dry they will nest in the water bowl."

The vertical depth is about 12-14 inches where she laid. I would estimate due to the angle and elbow at the end of the tunnel, and by her length, the whole tunnel and egg chamber was about 3 feet long.

You metion, if the cage is too dry, does it look to dry? In the photos you can see the darker, wet dirt she dug up. I know you are not one for measurements, but the cage humidity on the hot side is about 65-85%, and the cool side in the 90's, and after lights out its about 99% everywhere. I get condensation on the walls, I am afaid if I made it wetter it would be a swampy bog.

As always, I welcome good constructive advise and reviews of my efforts, its the way I learn. Research, trial, and error, and trial some more.

Thanks Keith

I said, you could force them to lay in the water bowl by keeping the whole cage dry. Not that your cage was dry.

I did not comment on your substrate as I have nothing good to say about it. Its does what you just explained.

It launchs the moisture into the air. Therefore you have condensation. Also you can get condensation with nearly any amount of humidity. It forms on contact with a surface of a different temperature. For instance, I take a box of frozen mice out of the freezer and place it one the shelf by the sink, within minutes it has beads of water all over it. Now consider my room is bone dry(3% to 10%humidity) I mention this to point out that having condensation has many meanings and most are not good.

The material you are using looses(launches) its moisture very very fast, as in it dry outs too fast. Therefore its a mess. It can be done right, but you have to be on it ALL THE TIME. In order to keep it right, you have to remix it nearly daily.

The stuff I like is when you only have to remix it every few months and in fact only by digging up eggs(I am such a lazy bum)(nope, just spoiled by good stuff)

I will still place a small bet that those eggs do not hatch. How about if I win, you own me a baby kimberly and if you win I owe you a baby gilleni?????? Hey if I win you will not have a baby to give me, dang, it was a good idea to start with. Cheers and good luck

"How about if I win, you own me a baby kimberly and if you win I owe you a baby gilleni?????? Hey if I win you will not have a baby to give me, dang, it was a good idea to start with."

Hmmmm? HAHAHA, how about if you win, I have to buy a trio of baby gilleni!

Thanks Keith

And tubular shaped, I recognized that with beardies years ago, and a few other lizards before them.
Also the color is off on those eggs, even though dirty, they are not pearly white.
Its worth it to try incubating them, the worst that can happen is they get moldy. Good luck.

It may have been just me, but strangely enough I always had the best luck with Kimberly eggs that were not pearly white. When they were beigish in color they usually hatched great. Pearly white for me was always the kiss of death.

Yeah, I had some Kimberly eggs that seemed almost transparant in spot hatch out perfectly.