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Males, mice and rats rotating??

nahual Feb 21, 2007 11:47 AM

Hi i wonder how long do you all keep males in each females cages when rotating for breeding. I have 2 females setups for rats and 3 females per setup for mice. Thanks for your time

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diggy415 Feb 21, 2007 08:18 PM

Because i have my own collection and 4.3 and i can sell off any excess, i decide when i get litters, when one mom pops, i breed another, when the first moms babies are weaned she will be rebred and the second batch pops, then i hold off and seperate all and figure out what i need and give it weeks in advance. It doesn't always go my way and right now i have a female in with a male and trying to figure out if he is bad, as i know she is good, and i got alot of older males from a friend of mine and think most are duds and now have to wait for my newest litter to grow up to start hot and heavy again. I've also had a nasty case of that sneezing going on and so now i give the antibiotic to the moms to be and the new weanlings and any sick ones won't get bred either. Oh the fun in guessing who's bred.
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rainbowsrus Feb 24, 2007 01:52 AM

I do it a little different, each of my breeder males has his own tub. Each Wednesday (cleaning day) I remove all females that have been with a male for three weeks. Most are obvious but I have a tag with description for each female and I don't mik same color females in any tub. For example my male Blue Hooded could at any time have up to three females. Again for example the females could be blue, bblack and tan hood. That way I can always tell them apart. After removing preggo females and cleaning tubs, I add in females to the various tubs to equal the weekly litters I need.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
14.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Sonya Feb 25, 2007 03:54 PM

>>Hi i wonder how long do you all keep males in each females cages when rotating for breeding. I have 2 females setups for rats and 3 females per setup for mice. Thanks for your time

For rats 1.3 to 1.5 I leave a male with a group about two weeks. If he is someone that I really want babies from I would move him then or maybe leave him a week longer unless everyone is obviously bred.
Mice are set up in 1.5 to 1.9 groups and they get set up and left alone, no moving anyone. Mice are not as socially forgiving. Moving mice around tends to either create delays in resocializing or result in deaths when someone doesn't like the new roommates. When I want a new group I take a grouping out of my grow out tub that has anywhere from ten to 70 mice in it at any given time. (it is a 20long tank)
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Sonya

I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
Happy Bunny

PatrickR Feb 26, 2007 02:17 PM

I know that males will kill offspring that is not theirs in order to get the female in heat immediately so he can spawn his own from her... thats fact from common behavior..... dont you have problems when you take a male out of a female heram cage every 2 weeks... the new male will be there when the females are giving birth to the oldamles offspring

Thanks
PatrickR

Sonya Feb 26, 2007 04:36 PM

>>I know that males will kill offspring that is not theirs in order to get the female in heat immediately so he can spawn his own from her... thats fact from common behavior..... dont you have problems when you take a male out of a female heram cage every 2 weeks... the new male will be there when the females are giving birth to the oldamles offspring
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>>Thanks
>>PatrickR

Rats don't care who parented what and I have never had a male rat or mouse kill anyone. Rarely do I have rats kill anyone or anything. Males live in groups with each other, pups, doesn't matter.
With mice.... Ninety nine percent of cannabalizm is from first time moms killing their own pups and or killing pups from others born around that same time. Once they get past the first litter they will likely do fine.
Mom mice also will attack males introduced to the group when they don't want him there. Dads are too preoccupied to kill anyone except each other.
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Sonya

I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
Happy Bunny

nahual Feb 26, 2007 05:39 PM

Thank you all for your replies, they are all full of usefull tips. Thanks again!!

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