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a pair of ghost bullsnake from ted thompson- susquehanna ectotherms. what do you think? i don't think i seen many of those or i just missed out lol.

the pictures really wash them out, i wish you could see better.

06's? Pretty. Look like White-sided Bulls. Good looking snakes.

reako45

yeah they're 06' i don't know they were label as ghosts. either way i don't care because if they were white sided bulls then they're nice ones, most i have seen are dirty ws. thanks

Those look like what I see commonly referred to as ghosts.
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Genesis 1:1

lol, now i am getting confused on this morph pattern lol. so whitesided=ghost? but some people just label them as ghost even though they are WS? just want to get it straight. thanks

Hi Guys

The "ghost" that he has are basically hypo whitesideds and on the other hand "snows" are albino whitesideds. I know it's somewhat confusing since those names are also used in other colubrids in different morph combinations. Those morphs combinations, i beleive, were named before the axanthic and anerythristic genes became available. Now let the confusion begin, hehe, since there are a lot more bullsnake morphs and combinations being bred than before. Hope it helped a bit.

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Jonel M. Lopez

www.spsnakes.com

What kind of camera do you use? That picture is simply astounding!
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Hi Aubrey

I use a Panasonic FZ7 with a 16 oz white delicup as a diffuser. Its a good midrange digicam that fit my needs and budget.

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Jonel M. Lopez

www.spsnakes.com

Thanks! That is another fantastic photo!
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Nice Bull's,
Gai.
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1.1 Albino Sonoran Gopher
2.0 W.C. Sonoran Gopher
1.1 Red Bull Snake
1.1 San Diego Gophers (het albino applegate)
2.2 Leucistic Texas ratsnake
1.1 "White Oak" ratsnake
2.3 W.C Okeetee Corn
1.2 Abbt line Okeetee Corn
1.0 Reverse Okeetee Corn
0.1 Creamsicle Corn
1.2 W.C Miami Phase Corn
1.1 Sinaloan Milk
1.0 Albino Honduran Milk
0.1 Anery Honduran Milk
1.1 W.C Mexican Black King
0.2 C.B Mexican Black King
2.0 W.C Cal King
1.1 C.B Cal King
0.1 Durango Mountain King
1.0 Desert King
1.3 Northern pine
1.1 N.J White pine
2.5 Black pine
1.2 Louisiana Pine
0.2 kankakee Bull
2.3 Bearded Dragon
0.0.40 Red Eye Tree frogs
7 Tanks full with African Cichlids.
Many Mice, Rats and feeder Roaches

thanks all, so basicaily they're whitesided? but some just label them as ghost? i just got my email reply from a guy that i got the bulls from and he said that they are from the same clutch. he said i should have no problem breeding them. but i am now little iffy about breeding them, shoot! nice bulls anyway and i'm happy with them.

i got a email again and he said they are really hypo white-sided bulls. i feel better noe knowing what the morp really are lol.

The name "ghost" morph that is being sold in most shows are really hypo-whitesided bulls. They can lighter or darker. The ones you posted are very nice but a true ghost is different looking than those. See Envy's site and there might be a pic there. Like Jonel said, the albino version would be the snow.

Scott Robinson

thanks for the info, i will check envy's site.

I had two of those in my last clutch. It was easy to tell they were hypo-white sided when side by side with a normal white sided. Sadly I didn't keep any of them. I wonder how they will look in three or four years.

well you should have kept one or a pair and watch them grow. lol they are very nice looking. i love my new pair. the problem is they are from the same clutch and i can't breed them as i was planning on to.

Here is a hypo-white sided bull. She is very light in color with more brown in the slight pattern along her back. She is still white-sided but almost faded completely.

Scott Robinson

wow, very nice! so that what they might looks like when adult. thanks

Here is a clean white-sided bull would look like. Pattern is much more distinct.

Scott Robinson

boy! i like them all. i am gald i got a pair. have you bred them? does the babies looks like mine bulls? thanks for sharing the pics.

Yes, babies should look like hypo-whitesides. The Ivory is very similar to the hypo-whiteside with a pattern that is slightly different in color. They come from a guy in Europe. Here is what the Ivory would look like.

Scott Robinson

nice ivory! you have some nice bulls.

Scott, I don't realy like "morphs" but the one in the picture is a nice one.
Gai.
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1.1 Albino Sonoran Gopher
2.0 W.C. Sonoran Gopher
1.1 Red Bull Snake
1.1 San Diego Gophers (het albino applegate)
2.2 Leucistic Texas ratsnake
1.1 "White Oak" ratsnake
2.3 W.C Okeetee Corn
1.2 Abbt line Okeetee Corn
1.0 Reverse Okeetee Corn
0.1 Creamsicle Corn
1.2 W.C Miami Phase Corn
1.1 Sinaloan Milk
1.0 Albino Honduran Milk
0.1 Anery Honduran Milk
1.1 W.C Mexican Black King
0.2 C.B Mexican Black King
2.0 W.C Cal King
1.1 C.B Cal King
0.1 Durango Mountain King
1.0 Desert King
1.3 Northern pine
1.1 N.J White pine
2.5 Black pine
1.2 Louisiana Pine
0.2 kankakee Bull
2.3 Bearded Dragon
0.0.40 Red Eye Tree frogs
7 Tanks full with African Cichlids.
Many Mice, Rats and feeder Roaches

Thanks for the compliments. This whitesided bull was a holdback from Scott Crumbly but he had two that were similar and sold one to me. I have other whitesides but none this clean.

Scott Robinson