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hogg island breeding question

SenorSnake Feb 26, 2007 12:44 PM

Are hogg islands breeding requirements the same as bci for length (well, obviously a little shorter)/weight/age?

Thanks,
Jamie
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1.1 96, 04 Het Albino - "Suzie" & "Lumpy"
0.1 03 Poss. Het Albino - "Ami"
0.1 05 Super Salmon - "CreamSicle"
0.1 04 Anery Het Snow- "Squelchy"
1.0 04 DH-Sunglow - "Dwayne"
1.0 06 TH-Moonglow - "Gargamel"
1.2 01 BRBs- "Gobball", "Larva" & "Tofu"

Replies (3)

ChrisGilbert Feb 26, 2007 01:31 PM

Not really sure what your asking. Although Hog Islands were never officially taxonomically defined they have been called B.c.imperator by most in the hobby.
Consider that Tarahumara Mt. Boas from Mexico, possibly the smallest boas, are BCI as well as all the varied locales down through Central America and into most of Colombia. Then all the insular forms. Among that group there are a lot of differences in imperator.
The rules of 3 years or more for a mature female usually work well for all boas. Some need longer, BCC, and amarali for example, and in rare cases some can breed earlier. Males and females both exhibit certain traits and characteristics that help keepers determine if they are mature. I would say gain familiarity with those characteristics, raise the animals well, and go from there.

SenorSnake Feb 26, 2007 01:39 PM

I was really wondering what the weight/length porportion should be. We breed Colombians and Brazilian Rainbows. The differences between those two in requirements for breeding are huge. while a 5' 5lb Rainbow boa is more than heavy enough for breeding, it would be a completely unreasonable weight to breed a Colombian at.

Since I don't have any experience with Hoggs I was wondering what is appropriate. If they should be heavily bodied like Columbians, or more slender like Rainbows, or something in between.
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1.1 96, 04 Het Albino - "Suzie" & "Lumpy"
0.1 03 Poss. Het Albino - "Ami"
0.1 05 Super Salmon - "CreamSicle"
0.1 04 Anery Het Snow- "Squelchy"
1.0 04 DH-Sunglow - "Dwayne"
1.0 06 TH-Moonglow - "Gargamel"
1.2 01 BRBs- "Gobball", "Larva" & "Tofu"

ChrisGilbert Feb 26, 2007 01:47 PM

My CA females are all more slender than comparitive length and age Colombians. For example, my currently gravid 66% het Blood is just shy of 6ft. and prior to breeding was about the diameter of a coke can. While a 6ft. Colombian female can be double that girth easily.

You may want to email Gus Rentfro, since he has some of the most, if not the most experience with Hog Islands out of any breeder in the country.

Depending on the bloodline of your animals adult females can be between 5-7ft. and with this range there would be a respectable range in girth.

As long as the female was 3 years old and raised properly I'd say she should be ready.

I never got the weight on my female before she was bred, however I also have a Gee line Hypo that is about the same size, she weighs just under 8lbs. I would guess Hog Island females to be in the same ball park, maybe a little less. but again, there are big Hogs.

I hope this helps. Maybe someone with experience with Hogs will reply and help you out better.

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