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I've been thinking about getting a boa for a while now and been looking at alot of them and just had a quick question.

Are there any morphs that stay mainly silvery grey color as they grow? I really enjoy the baby/young boas that have a silvery color to them but havent seen any adults like that.

Also if theres a no to that. What sould I look for in a young snake to get the darkest snake possible.

... I dont know what it is but I just dont seem to enjoy the middle road brown boas... but thats why there are so many diffrent morphs. =P

There are Type II Anerys that pretty much look like as adults what they do as babies.

Some Ghosts and Type I Anerys maintain silvery colors.

There are also Black Super Motleys.

If you want a non-morph, there are two natural color phases that may appeal to you. The Cay Caulker and Caulker Cay locales have beautiful silver and gray colors. Cay Caulkers are darker. Some Crawl Cay lines are brown, but Gus Rentfro has a very silvery white bloodline (his also has the most documentation to purity that I am aware of).

The black super motley sounds nice I enjoy the patterns on them.

You dont happen to know where I could find a picture of some of the adults do you?

I've been thinking about an anery for a while but I supose I'd have to check the parents to get an idea of what they will look likewhen they are older.

The Super Motleys have no pattern. You might be thinking Motley.

Pete Kahl, Paul M. (don't recall last name), Linda Hedgpeth, Jeremy Stone, Alex Barriero and Millenium Morphs (again don't recall name) all have produced Super Motleys.

Alex should have pictures of an Adult, he is the owner of BoaRepublic.com.

Most of the Black ones are from the CA mutation, Paul and Pete both had some for sale last year. $8500-$10K.

sorry I was thinking just motley not super motley...

I just saw a picture of the black super motley and they look nice.

Yeah they are really cool.

I've seen some Colombian Motleys that are very Black as adults and don't have the brown or reds.

I don't know about the morphs but what about the silver Peruvians and Bolivians, or are you set on a morph? Here's a pic of my peruvian nothing special but I don't care for the pinkish ones either though.
Bob

Well... I guess morph was the wrong word to use.

I'm just interested in a snake that stayed the greyish/silvery color or gets really dark.

That snake those is absolutely beautiful. How old is it?

She is an 06 I am no breeder I just got her cuz she is beautiful and silver but you should check Gus out at Rio Bravo and his bolivians are hot!!! I don't know who produces silver peruvians but somebody does and mine was not expensive like $400 but in the classifieds someone is trying to sell a female like I got but they are asking $1200 so go figure. Go to Gus' site and his animals are second to none, all are beautiful but check out the bolivians I think I might get one in a couple years.
Bob

Well, if you're asking about morphs, you may like the supermotleys that come out appearing silver/grey.

But if you're asking for Boas in general, I know lots of the Central Americans start out looking grey and many end up retaining this grey, or turning darker, almost black.

A few in particular:

Cancun Boas, Sonoran Desert Boas, Cay Caulkers, Hog Islands, some Nicaraguans, some Panamanians, Crawl Cay, and others.

If you're wanting an adult that would be the blackest, you can go with Argentine Boas and Peruvian redtails.

If you want to try making your own, how about a pastel anerythristic boa, or a darker, spotted version?
One should be a light, clean silver color, the other probably a darker grey with black.

Here are some pics to illustrate...

Didn't mention this one, but this is a morph of a Sonoran Desert Boa, the Leopard Boa. Some variations look black as adults. She's being bred by a young 'mysstery' male here...

Here's a reduced pattern Hog Island Boa

Baby Cancun Boas

Adult Cancun Boa

Adult 'normal' SOnoran Boa

Here's the Sonoran with a Leopard

Here's another Hog Island Boa

Then there's the Ghost Boa - (Anerythristic X Hypomelanistic)
He's the light grey, silver one here...

and here next to that ugly red guy....

Well, hope this helps a bit!

Best Wishes! Joe Rollo - Bci Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

Well, if you're asking about morphs, you may like the supermotleys that come out appearing silver/grey.

But if you're asking for Boas in general, I know lots of the Central Americans start out looking grey and many end up retaining this grey, or turning darker, almost black.

A few in particular:

Cancun Boas, Sonoran Desert Boas, Cay Caulkers, Hog Islands, some Nicaraguans, some Panamanians, Crawl Cay, and others.

If you're wanting an adult that would be the blackest, you can go with Argentine Boas and Peruvian redtails.

If you want to try making your own, how about a pastel anerythristic boa, or a darker, spotted version?
One should be a light, clean silver color, the other probably a darker grey with black.

Here are those pics to illustrate...

Didn't mention this one, but this is a morph of a Sonoran Desert Boa, the Leopard Boa. Some variations look black as adults. She's being bred by a young 'mysstery' male here...

Here's a reduced pattern Hog Island Boa

Baby Cancun Boas

Adult Cancun Boa

Adult 'normal' SOnoran Boa

Here's the Sonoran with a Leopard

Here's another Hog Island Boa

Then there's the Ghost Boa - (Anerythristic X Hypomelanistic)
He's the light grey, silver one here...

and here next to that ugly red guy....

Well, hope this helps a bit!

Best Wishes! Joe Rollo - Bci Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

others...

First two different Pastel Anerythristics, then a possible Super Ghost

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

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Caden Chapman
slithering.serpents@gmail.com

That second pastel anery is pretty much what im looking for.
Its such a great looking snake.

from Ben Siegel two years back...

In my opinion, one of the most outstanding Anery's i've ever seen... one amongst thousands...

too bad I gave her up!

Take care, Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

Summit? looks really dark, like it. And that reduced hog is pimpin.
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2.3 Bearded Dragons
1.0 Pastel Ball Pythons (NERD Line)
0.0.1 Water Monitors
1.1 Pastel Red Tailed boa Het. for Albino
1.1 Yellow Ackie Monitors
And Counting...

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

those are some nice snakes there buddy. I like the reduced pattern Hog and I never liked a Hog until I saw yours. I also like the ghost a lot to and does it have some lavender in there too with the grey's and stuff? How do you get a leopard boa, sonorans carrying what genes exactly? Sorry for the ?'s and loved the pics too.
Bob

here's my girl no flash indirect light

Hi Bob, so, the Leopard Boa is the name of the morph - it is of Sonoran descent. They were discovered by Hans Winner. It's a recessive trait and is variable in appearance, but usually has the same mottled, heavily pigmented, dark look.

Thanks, I like those Hogs too! lol..

The Ghosts due tend to have lavendar, and some will retain this, some won't. Some turn a bit yellowish as adults so it's important to buy from clean lines.

Thanks again, Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

Yea was just asking about boas morph was appearently the wrong word... Damn being new. v.v

Your pictures dont appear to be showing. =

If you are looking to get a dark Boa why not get an Argentine Boa. They are beautiful as adults and get really dark. You could get some argentine het t pos which is something I have been wanting to invest in.

Super Motleys are expensive if you can find one.

Leopards are another good choice for a dark Boa.

For silver animals try to invest in some high quality ghosts from someone who has some knockout adult anerys and ghosts.

Greg Reinert

It's not a boa, but a really nice dark snake I've seen are the black blood pythons. They get darker with age til almost solid black with orange eyes. the young have silver and tan highlights/markings.
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Donna DeYoung
River Mist Reptiles

0.4 Andalusian horses
0.1 Clydesdale/Paint horse
2.0 Crazy Cockatiels
1.0 Cheery Chihuahua
1.0 Hypo Dream Pastel BCI
0.1 Hypo Het Albino BCI

How about these. Start off silver/black....

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Dr Warren Booth
North Carolina State University
Department of Entomology
3309 Gardner Hall
Raleigh, NC 27695-7613

These are anerythristic type II sonorans.

Warren

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Dr Warren Booth
North Carolina State University
Department of Entomology
3309 Gardner Hall
Raleigh, NC 27695-7613

Warren you got to stop posting pics of that thing!! Thank god you posted only a week ago cuz my jaw is still on the FLOOR I have looked high and low for these things (anery son.) and couldn't find anybody with them, but I like yours. So do you produce them or where can I look at to get one. Lately I have been very interested in the dwarf boas-most obvious the anery sonoran and the pure bloods but they are only for breeder budgets so I'm stuck without one for a loooong time. Your snake is so hot you just make me sick. So in order to cure me, I think you just might have to post more picks of her or tell me where I could get one that looks like yours hahaha seriously That snake makes me smile everytime I look at it and that makes me happy and you can't put a price on that or can you haha.. Nice chatting with you.
Bob

I'll get some new pictures of her soon. She is currently breeding with a male Het T nic.

As far as were to get them, well, I produced them. I imported a group of Sonorans from Germany several years ago. I kept the largest pair and bred them, and produced a pair of Anerythristics (one still born). Since then I have produced 14 ( I hink, need to check my old notes). This year I will be producing het anery, poss het T ive. Next year I will have hets and double het true sonoran ghosts.
If you want on the waiting list drop me an email (Warren_Booth@hotmail.com).

Warren
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Dr Warren Booth
North Carolina State University
Department of Entomology
3309 Gardner Hall
Raleigh, NC 27695-7613