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Anyone working with Hans Winner's Euro pastels in the states?
Just curious if anyone was expecting any clucthes or breedings in the next couple years?
Thanks
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2.3 Bearded Dragons
1.0 Pastel Ball Pythons (NERD Line)
0.0.1 Water Monitors
1.1 Pastel Red Tailed boa Het. for Albino
1.1 Yellow Ackie Monitors
And Counting...

Hans is a great guy. Check with Vin Russo for Euro pastels.
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Hope that helps.

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Gus
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Hans is working with a pure Colombian line. The website for the breeder Vin's line is from mentions that they were at one point bred into Suri BCC blood.

Does anyone know if Hans' line is related to the Kubsch pastels? If so, the Euro Squaretails are partially related.

Here is a link to Vin's site. I think this variation has a lot of potential:

http://cuttingedgeherp.com/ratsmice/item.nhtml?profile=ratsmice&UID=104

Hans sent me some pictures for a project a few years ago and there were some pictures of his Pastel line. I do not know the full history though.

The line Vin Russo works with is called Dutch pastels bred by Freek Nuyt. I've a pair of these (photos)...
I don't think Hans Winners line are related to Kubsch line but I don't know for certain!

Female dutch pastel:

Male dutch pastel:

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manos

I'm not sure if their related to kubsche but just by looking at them would guess their not, this site has a few pics of them.

http://www.exoticsbynature.com/daytona06.html
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2.3 Bearded Dragons
1.0 Pastel Ball Pythons (NERD Line)
0.0.1 Water Monitors
1.1 Pastel Red Tailed boa Het. for Albino
1.1 Yellow Ackie Monitors
And Counting...