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Just picked up these Davis Mountains a little while back...

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2.0 Snow Corns
1.4 Normal Corns
1.0 Sunglow Corn
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
1.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Southern Pine
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
0.1 Texas Rat Het. Leucistic
1.1 Everglades Rat Het. Albino
0.1 White Side Everglades Rat
1.0 Yellow Rat
1.1 Grey Rat
1.1 Black Rat (Albino,White Side)
1.0 Albino Striped Cal. King
0.1 Striped Cal. King
0.4 Misc. Cal. King
1.0 Blizzard King
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend
jswanson737@hotmail.com

Say, those are some nice GBK's. I especially like the third one down.
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Diego

Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
SNAKES
2.4.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
1.1.0 Hypo Everglades Rat Snakes
2.1.0 Baird's Rat Snakes
1.2.0 Trans-Pecos Rat Snakes
1.1.0 Trinket Rat Snake
1.0.0 Japanese Rat Snake
1.1.0 Salt and Pepper Bull Snakes
0.1.0 Amel Pacific Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Het Amel San Diego Gopher Snake
0.1.0 San Diego Gopher Snake
3.2.0 Sonoran Gopher Snakes
0.1.0 Amel Sonoran Gopher Snakes
1.1.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
2.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (2.1 River Road)
1.0.0 Hypermelanistic California Kingsnake
0.1.0 Albino High White California Kingsnake
0.2.0 California Kingsnakes
1.1.0 Thayeri Kingsnake
0.1.0 Florida Kingsnake
1.1.0 Boa Constrictors
0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
2.0.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
1.1.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Woma Python
1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
1.1.0 Western Hognoses
1.1.0 Malagasy Giant Hognoses
1.0.0 Blacktail Cribo

LIZARDS
1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
0.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
1.0.0 African Fat-Tail Gecko
0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
1.4.0 Leopard Geckos
1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
1.1.0 Chuckwalla
0.1.0 Banded Gecko

FROGS
2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
1.0.1 Green Tree Frogs
1.0.0 Bubbling Kassina
1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs
0.0.2 Gold Frogs

ahhhh yes, the old blairs morph davis mt alternas, hard to find like that especially the last one, good job!!

Thanks, this is my first purchase of GBK's, I like them alot!
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.4 Normal Corns
1.0 Sunglow Corn
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
1.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Southern Pine
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
0.1 Texas Rat Het. Leucistic
1.1 Everglades Rat Het. Albino
0.1 White Side Everglades Rat
1.0 Yellow Rat
1.1 Grey Rat
1.1 Black Rat (Albino,White Side)
1.0 Albino Striped Cal. King
0.1 Striped Cal. King
0.4 Misc. Cal. King
1.0 Blizzard King
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend
jswanson737@hotmail.com

Are you sure they are davis and not alpine?

Good looking snakes...

Steven

nothing like the old Davis Mtn Blair Phase...yep... I agree...

I am thinking that this may have been a poke at the earlier river road post...

If I am not mistaken???

Lance

Above post was meant to follow Steve's reply...

LBenton - Feel free to entertain with your conspiracy theory, if I remember right, I posted these pics to show off a new purchase...!?
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.4 Normal Corns
1.0 Sunglow Corn
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
1.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Southern Pine
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
0.1 Texas Rat Het. Leucistic
1.1 Everglades Rat Het. Albino
0.1 White Side Everglades Rat
1.0 Yellow Rat
1.1 Grey Rat
1.1 Black Rat (Albino,White Side)
1.0 Albino Striped Cal. King
0.1 Striped Cal. King
0.4 Misc. Cal. King
1.0 Blizzard King
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend
jswanson737@hotmail.com

I will just say they are not a typical Davis look, especially number 3. And after the whole River Road post below it just seemed like it may have been in jest.

No offense, but I still plan to get a good nights sleep either way.

Lance

Man, you guys... I come in here to show you a trio of snakes I just picked up, pretty stoked about them, and BAM, it's not this, it's not that, everything's a conspiracy, I saw the post below, and have my own opinions about how seriously things are taken, but who am I?... maybe Kingsnake should rename the GBK forum to "Kingsnakes: Gray-Banded (Pro's Only)".
Good nights sleep? Hope so, I grew concerned...

Thanks for the advice on what they are or aren't, frankly I know I got a nice trio of Gray Bands regardless of where the parents were found, I'll just remember to post my other snakes elsewhere... Talk about buzzkill...
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.4 Normal Corns
1.0 Sunglow Corn
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
1.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Southern Pine
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
0.1 Texas Rat Het. Leucistic
1.1 Everglades Rat Het. Albino
0.1 White Side Everglades Rat
1.0 Yellow Rat
1.1 Grey Rat
1.1 Black Rat (Albino,White Side)
1.0 Albino Striped Cal. King
0.1 Striped Cal. King
0.4 Misc. Cal. King
1.0 Blizzard King
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend
jswanson737@hotmail.com

>>and have my own opinions about how seriously things are taken, but who am I?

So don't take it so seriously. Generic alterna in most cases are not any less valuable than locality alterna. Further very few locality alterna are expensive or more so than others.

So getting called out on a locality is a little like being called out for bad grammar. No big deal.

Now on the other hand if you are serious about alterna and keeping snakes you owe it to yourself and to the animals you keep to learn all about them. That includes how to identify the intricacies of each locality or region after having seen thousands of wild caught snakes.

I think you and Diego are related.

Forky

You

I agree with a lot of what you just said, I like the snakes, but man, you guys in here are a bit too serious and jumpy for the likes of us common folk.

Nope, not related, irrelevant either way.

Come in here to show off a couple animals, and see where things end up?
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.4 Normal Corns
1.0 Sunglow Corn
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
1.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Southern Pine
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
0.1 Texas Rat Het. Leucistic
1.1 Everglades Rat Het. Albino
0.1 White Side Everglades Rat
1.0 Yellow Rat
1.1 Grey Rat
1.1 Black Rat (Albino,White Side)
1.0 Albino Striped Cal. King
0.1 Striped Cal. King
0.4 Misc. Cal. King
1.0 Blizzard King
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend
jswanson737@hotmail.com

Clever with the "forky you", nice of you.
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.4 Normal Corns
1.0 Sunglow Corn
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
1.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Southern Pine
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
0.1 Texas Rat Het. Leucistic
1.1 Everglades Rat Het. Albino
0.1 White Side Everglades Rat
1.0 Yellow Rat
1.1 Grey Rat
1.1 Black Rat (Albino,White Side)
1.0 Albino Striped Cal. King
0.1 Striped Cal. King
0.4 Misc. Cal. King
1.0 Blizzard King
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend
jswanson737@hotmail.com

>>Clever with the "forky you", nice of you.
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>>2.0 Snow Corns
>>1.4 Normal Corns
>>1.0 Sunglow Corn
>>0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
>>0.2 Creamsicle Corns
>>0.1 Amelanistic Corns
>>1.1 Anerythristic A Corns
>>1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
>>0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
>>1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
>>1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
>>1.0 Southern Pine
>>1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
>>0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
>>0.1 Texas Rat Het. Leucistic
>>1.1 Everglades Rat Het. Albino
>>0.1 White Side Everglades Rat
>>1.0 Yellow Rat
>>1.1 Grey Rat
>>1.1 Black Rat (Albino,White Side)
>>1.0 Albino Striped Cal. King
>>0.1 Striped Cal. King
>>0.4 Misc. Cal. King
>>1.0 Blizzard King
>>0.2 Cat
>>0.1 Dog
>>0.1 Friend
>>jswanson737@hotmail.com

Your trio is nice, they are to be proud of. And the RR in dispute is nice animal on it's own as well. But in both cases they are at the least not typical. I will admit two things

1 - my skeptic meter went up a bit trying to put the picture to the locality.

2 - and the big one, I honestly thought you were some "old timer" from this forum using another login to poke fun at somebody else that just had a fit.

So, in short I mistook you for a poser not a poster. Now that I know I missed the mark on #2 there I apologize, but my skepticism remains genuine on the locality data you were provided on these animals. We really are to help, but when opinions are provided try not to make any of it personally... You will be much happier that way, I promise.
A more typical Davis from the Gallery

Sounds good, I honestly, sorry to say, don't care THAT much about breaking the localities down that far, I just went from what I was told...

Just rubbed me a little raw at how my post was taken, and after reading the other post, frankly got a little pissed.

But whatever, life goes on...
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.4 Normal Corns
1.0 Sunglow Corn
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
1.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Southern Pine
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
0.1 Texas Rat Het. Leucistic
1.1 Everglades Rat Het. Albino
0.1 White Side Everglades Rat
1.0 Yellow Rat
1.1 Grey Rat
1.1 Black Rat (Albino,White Side)
1.0 Albino Striped Cal. King
0.1 Striped Cal. King
0.4 Misc. Cal. King
1.0 Blizzard King
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend
jswanson737@hotmail.com

... To piss anybody off, and if you can hang in here past this little feather ruffling you will have a huge resource to maintain and breed those animals.

Lance

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2.0 Snow Corns
1.4 Normal Corns
1.0 Sunglow Corn
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
1.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Southern Pine
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
0.1 Texas Rat Het. Leucistic
1.1 Everglades Rat Het. Albino
0.1 White Side Everglades Rat
1.0 Yellow Rat
1.1 Grey Rat
1.1 Black Rat (Albino,White Side)
1.0 Albino Striped Cal. King
0.1 Striped Cal. King
0.4 Misc. Cal. King
1.0 Blizzard King
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend
jswanson737@hotmail.com

The nuances of these snakes are many and varied, I studied this forum and the alterna page for 2 years before I ventured in, I am still a novice hunter for these amazing animals and along the way was side swiped by all of the beauty that west Texas has to offer herpwise and even plantwise! All that said, if you would research the alterna page you could do your own research that THESE people have provided to YOU ON THIS FORUM so you could ask better questions about the snakes you buy. Hundreds of photos and exact locale data led me to being on my first trip with 4 alterna found along with a lepidus, hysiglena and a red coachwhip, Many other herps were found, shoot, even saw a porcupine and ringtails. These guys bend over backwards to help but draw the line or seriously question locality snakes that do not fit the mold. Take the advice, look into it yourself, don't be a $hit about it. In the nicest way!
Todd Hughes

To the best of my knowledge...
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1.4 Normal Corns
1.0 Sunglow Corn
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
1.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Southern Pine
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
0.1 Texas Rat Het. Leucistic
1.1 Everglades Rat Het. Albino
0.1 White Side Everglades Rat
1.0 Yellow Rat
1.1 Grey Rat
1.1 Black Rat (Albino,White Side)
1.0 Albino Striped Cal. King
0.1 Striped Cal. King
0.4 Misc. Cal. King
1.0 Blizzard King
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend
jswanson737@hotmail.com

Do not include your email in your signature... at least not in a way that a bot can scan it and put it into a spam list.

spell it out, like (myname at internte dot com)

Just a little FYI if you want to keep that email clean.

Good call, never thought of it, thanks.
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.4 Normal Corns
1.0 Sunglow Corn
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
1.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Southern Pine
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
0.1 Texas Rat Het. Leucistic
1.1 Everglades Rat Het. Albino
0.1 White Side Everglades Rat
1.0 Yellow Rat
1.1 Grey Rat
1.1 Black Rat (Albino,White Side)
1.0 Albino Striped Cal. King
0.1 Striped Cal. King
0.4 Misc. Cal. King
1.0 Blizzard King
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend
jswanson737@hotmail.com

These are unbelievable!!!! You scored huge!!!!
If these were your first graybands, very good beginning here! My fave is the third one but all are very nice. One neat thing is that they all look different as well.

Thanks for posting the pics!
Billy
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Genesis 1:1

Thanks Billy! I am pretty excited about them!!
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.4 Normal Corns
1.0 Sunglow Corn
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
1.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Southern Pine
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
0.1 Texas Rat Het. Leucistic
1.1 Everglades Rat Het. Albino
0.1 White Side Everglades Rat
1.0 Yellow Rat
1.1 Grey Rat
1.1 Black Rat (Albino,White Side)
1.0 Albino Striped Cal. King
0.1 Striped Cal. King
0.4 Misc. Cal. King
1.0 Blizzard King
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend