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Most dosages I see for panacur are 50-100 mg per kg of bodyweight. Since the cream is 10% fenbendazole, my question is, is it 50-100 mg of panacur (at 10%) or is it 50-100 mg of fenbendazole?

So for example, would you give a 1 kg snake 1g of panacure at 10%? (which would be 100mg of fenbendazole) or would you give just 100mg of the panacur? (which would be 10mg of fenbendazole)

i am not trying to be mean in any way, but if you cant understand this, and did not include ml's in your factor, you need a vet (or someone with more training) to help. the dosage can also depend on how dehydrated the animal is. i dont know where you go the panacure, but its always best to consult a pro in herps. its sold in horse departments as a general dose because they are LARGE!! and getting the dose wrong isnt as bad because of the size, and they are mammals, its procesed diffrently. we havent seen herps of horse size in a few milion years!!

(if i seem mean or misspelled to much its cuz im sleepy!!)
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hanging out under heat lights burns up my brain cells!!

I didn't include ml in my questions because it's not based on ml on the tube, it's based on 100mg/g. But yea, your reply helped in no way whatsoever, so maybe instead of having the attitue "if you can't understand then don't do it" maybe you should enlighten me. I hope whoever taught you didn't have that kind of condesending attitude.

Notes: I am not a vet. This is just my understanding. I take no responibility for anyone relying on my knowledge. Yada, yada, yada...

SnakeMan, all the dosages I've seen are given in mg/kg of fenbendazole, not mg/kg of panacur. And your numbers match what i've read.

Po, he didn't mention ml because ml does not enter into the equation unless he's using a suspension like Safe Guard, which he isn't. Also, for reference, one reason fenbendazole is so widely used on herps by us simple folk is because it's well known to be safe at several hundred times the reccomended dosage. (Only about 100 times in most mammals).
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What goes up must come down...unless it exceeds escape velocity.

The correct dosage of fenbendazole for most, but not all, parasitic worm species is 25 mg per kg of bodyweight. You need to calculate the dose to give the correct amount of fenbendazole regardless of the total weight of the carrier and drug combined (Panacur).

The first example you gave in your second paragraph was essentially correct, you just had the wrong dosage per kg. More exactly, a 1 kg snake would require 250 mg of Panacur at 10% to give a dosage of 25 mg of fenbendazole. This is typically given three times, with two weeks between doses. Good luck.

Kelly

Yea that's what I figured but I just wanted to be 100% sure. Thanks for your help.

I'll second po's grumpiness with pointing out that the internet is not the place to learn these things. We all have opinions, and some quite educated, however when self medicating, which is something that is deep in the grey area of what you should and shouldn't do, the learning should be done directly from your vet. Once learned, then feel you know what needs to be known.

Just so I don't question this advice, I'll recall that the majority of threads below, with a vast difference in topics, all have some mention to seek veterinary advice. Rx's are no different.

Ian

In this case, he was just asking for dosage clarification and calculation confirmation. It was clear he already had the drug and had decided to administer it himself. I have no issue confirming what someone essentially already knows, and has made the decision to self treat. I would rather do that, than see an animal given the wrong drug or dosage. I may give an opinion only on a health issue and what drugs have typically been used for specific ailments. However, I do not give actual diagnosis on health issues, as I am not a vet. I agree with you on that count, and I refer them to vets for such diagnosis, treatment options, and drug selection and prescription. Your point is well made on that item.

Kelly

Exactly. If it matters, I took fecal samples in to the vet to have them checked for parasites and they came back with worms like I had expected since the snake is wild caught. The vet won't give out medication to self treat, they insist on seeing the snake. However it's a mangrove snake and none of the reptile vets in the area will see it because it's technically venomous and nobody has ever delt with any rear fanged snakes around here apparently. So I'm left with the option to do it myself. Which I would rather do anyway since I happen to have a balance that will measure milligrams. I'd rather spend 10 dollars to do myself what the vet would charge me 100 for, except for the fact they won't do it. So you see the bind I'm in? I've done my research and I know what the risks are. Tons of people on these forums and elsewhere self treat with panacure successfully. It's really not hard to do at all. However I just had one simple question that I needed confirmation on before I just went ahead and did it. After I'm done treating the snake I'll take more fecals in to make sure it's taken care of and go from there.

I was more just cutting the cheese then gearing up for a fight Try hang'n around your vet's office and see if you can learn how to do your own fecals. It can be a really rewarding skill, and with the exception of the microscope cost, it'll save you some money too.

Ian