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ITS A FORM OF REVERSE STRIPE THEN RIGHT

DelaneyColubrids Mar 01, 2007 09:11 PM

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FunkyRes Mar 02, 2007 02:42 AM

No. It's not a form of reverse striped.
The stripe down the back is cream like any wild striped Cal King - a reverse stripe has a black stripe down the back, hence the phrase "reverse".

http://www.shoresenuffsnakes.com/images/reverse stripe cal king female 11.jpg

Notice the stripe color. It's black. That's a reverse.

http://www.snakeguys.com/Pages/CalKings/Copy_of_neoStripeCalkingSDCo.jpg

Notice the stripe down the back there is cream - like yours. That's typical.

Yours is atypical because it has very wide cream stripes on the sides leaving very little dark base color, but it is not reverse stripe.
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delaneycolubrids Mar 02, 2007 03:20 AM

I never said this but the stripes on his back are chocolate brown and his under side is totally chocolate too thought id say that LOL
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viborero Mar 02, 2007 08:58 AM

I am definitely no expert, but from what I understand is that those aren't the stripes. That snake has one cream stripe down the spine. The chocolate around it is the ground color, and the SIDES are really wide, or tall, if you will.

Am I wrong here?
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DelaneyColubrids Mar 02, 2007 11:50 AM

So it is a reverse stripe then with just reduced side pattern right

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Josh Delaney

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ZFelicien Mar 02, 2007 12:55 PM

you've started 3 different post all asking pretty much the same question and you're getting the same answers... so?... what is it that isn't getting through???

ok the snake you have there is a result of many generations of selective breeding... the goal was to yield an animals with much more white/Cream/yellow... by reducing the darker pigment.

Now your animal is NOT considered a reversed stripe specimen. it is a high yellow specimen that happans to display what some call a "double stripe" in actuality the two brown "stripes" are just the result of a greatly reduced ground color along the sides of the animal, the white-ish cream stripe in the middle of the two brown "stripes" is the actual stripe... it's common, NOT a reverse stripe.

so here's your options:

1)Call it what you like... it's your animal do what you will...

2)Listen to the advice of some of the "experts" on here and refer to it as it should be...

_Hi-yellow cali king

_ _double striped cali king

_ _ _Striped banana cali king

_ _ _ _Hi-yellow double striped banana (if you wanna stretch it!)

cali kings are misrepresented all the time, don't follow the trend. Personally if a breeder has an animal and doesn't even know what it is, it's a deterrent from buying from that breeder...

lastly nice snake...

~ZF
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waspinator421 Mar 02, 2007 01:00 PM

Here is what a reverse stripe looks like:


Note that the stripe down the middle of the back is black in color. Yours has a white/cream stripe. Hope this helps!
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rick millspaugh Mar 02, 2007 01:00 PM

>>So it is a reverse stripe then with just reduced side pattern right
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It’s NOT a reverse stripe, it’s a normal stripe. There are other pattern things going on but it is NOT a Reverse Stripe. No one, on any of these threads, has said it is a Reverse Stripe, NO ONE. It is NOT a Reverse Stripe, not now, not ever, it is a normal stripe. Just enjoy it for what it is – a NORMAL stripped Cal King.
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Nokturnel Tom Mar 02, 2007 01:53 PM

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Bluerosy Mar 02, 2007 04:33 PM

..after a few of these who cares what you call it.

Nokturnel Tom Mar 02, 2007 04:39 PM

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DISCERN Mar 02, 2007 05:51 PM

Hey Rainer,

Is that beer any good? I have almost purchased it before...
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KJUN Mar 02, 2007 03:17 PM

>>I never said this but the stripes on his back are chocolate brown and his under side is totally chocolate too thought id say that LOL

Typically, the more "desirable" animals don't have the darkly pigmented ventrals IF someone is working towards "high" white Cal-Kings.

BTW, are you just trolling to get arguments started?
KJ
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DelaneyColubrids Mar 03, 2007 05:46 PM

what are you talking about arguments I just asked a question
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Josh Delaney

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KJUN Mar 02, 2007 03:14 PM

>>COMMENTS

The stripe is normal in placement, so I see no reason to call it a reverse stripe. The high "white" sides are less typical, and really nice.

If it was more white than yellow, you could call it a high white striped, I guess. It isn't real BRIGHT yellow, so a "high yellow coastal phase striped" might be a little misleading. It is a pretty fair description of that snake, though.

By the way, i'm working off of my old laptop right now, so I might be seeing colors differently than what they really happen to be.

KJ
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Ace Mar 02, 2007 09:44 PM

At the link below is a wild specimen of Cali King from the Newport-Long beach area. It was this line (from what I've read and heard) that was bred to have higher light color on the sides, and less dark color. By reducing the dark pigment on the sides, it APPEARS to have 3 stripes, 2 dark and one light. BUT, the CENTER stripe is always light colored. On a reverse stripe specimen the center is DARK.

The link.........
www.californiaherps.com/snakes/images/lgcaliforniaenewportbhubbs.jpg

This guy was sold to me 7 years ago as a striped Banana.........

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