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Genevieve has been opaque for a week now. Found she had shed yesterday. A little tattered but still, the whole shed was off with no intervention. Since They are in strict Quarantine, I can't take picks in my regular setup so these will have to do for now:

Genevieve, showing most of her longer right side stripe. I estimate that stripe to be about 12 connected side blotches.

Here is her right side main stripe by itself. Has a similar one on the other side, a few blotches shorter. Note all the blushing in the lower blotches. Many of my normals show no blushing in those markings at all.

Thing, He is by far at this time the brightest colored of all the babies. He shed in transit so is nice and fresh skin. He would be a contender for holdback even among my normals.

A comparison shot with Genevieve and Thing showing Gen's left side stripe. Also, scattered up and down both sides are smaller stripes of two and three connected blotches.

Another comparison shot with Genevieve and Gomez. I little out of focus but still worth showing since Gomez is a darker phase. Looking them all over, I think Gomez shows the most promise of producing striped babies with Gen. Obviously I have a couple of years to really decide but I think he will be her first mate. Subsequent matings dependant on outcomes from the first.

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
14.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave I was looking at your collection again yesterday and I really noticed that your Cherry Salmons look like they had some blood influence in them so I did some research and realized that a Cherry Salmon was another name for Bloody Salmon and your male #5 looks real rich with color and I was wondering if you had any picks lately of him and what makes a Summit Salmon while I'm asking too? You almost bought the whole family of the Cherry Salmons lol
I don't know what it is about Thing and his color but he seems to be glowing sorta even next to Genevieve and -Fester I love that name and contrast I look forward to their progress and offspring. Keep us updated Dave and good luck with the quarantine.
Bob

Hey Bob, Thanks! I am soooo excited with the whole project. I find myself planning out the details of breeding for the first few years (after they grow up). Who to breed first and what to do next based on outcomes etc. LOL, gotta raise them up first.

Quarantine is going fine, have not seen any mites for a couple of weeks. All seemed to be associated with Thing. Maybe that's why he's so bright, they sucked all the dark blood out of him? Still have not gotten any fecals from Eve. She's only given one specimen and that was in the water bowl. She's in deep blue right now and back in the bowl, might also lose that one to the water bowl?

AS for the BCI's:

Summit Salmon - Produced by Summit Reptiles, they had a really nice Salmon Male that fathered a litter (maybe more than one?) of babies that had some really nice salmons. Those salmons grew into stunning salmons. I happened to get one as a baby before it colored up. I've been approached to sell it, as if I would!!

The Cherry Salmons were produced by Laura at Boas2Balls. She had that original Summit male and bred it to two of her females. A cherry red and a Pastel CBLT (the same Pastel CBLT now in my collection). She had three of them for sale on KS, pre shed. I thought they had lots of potential so I contacted her to purchase all three. She told me she had one more she had been planning on keeping that she'd add in at the same per animal price. I figured I'd get the group, pick out a pair and sell the other pair so I said OK and we ended up negotiating another Pastel as a freebie since it was a nipper. I ended up selling the pastel which brought the actual per price even lower and decided these were all worth hanging onto. So, bottom line is these "Cherry Salmons are some of the salmons from the Summit salmon line bred to a very red normal female. Either way, LOTS of color.

No new pics of them, they are soooo cool how they change color through the day and evening.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
14.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

salmons, those colors are really exceptional and are they better looking in their dark phase or light phase? I really don't care for the pinks to much but I like those reds and yellows (Banana Salmon).

It is nice that you have pairings already planned for a few years when they mature and I would be especially interested in trying to find out those HET MARKERS if at all there are any indicators of the trait that could help MEhaha pick out the hets from the normals in the future and that would be friggin' awesome and that would be an understatement to say the least. I hope Eve poops out of the bowl for you this once and sneak a pic of Ms. Tawney when she sheds if you don't mind.
Bob

I wouldn't worry to much about photographing in your regular setup Dave.. I sort of like the stark white background..
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It's not so much the background as the lighting. It really sucks up in the Q-room and I have to place lamps around to get light on them. Add to that the surface is 4'9" off the ground and I'm on a step stool. Still was able to get some good pics for a major amateur.

IN my snake room I have track lights all set up with normal floods, spots and GE Reveal floods. There is an area on top of a white melamine cage I have focused lighting on and use that for pics. I do sometimes use a green felt as I feel that does bring out the colors of BRB's better than white.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
14.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

THING was the "goods" GIMMEEEEEEEE DAMMMMMMIT !!!! lol
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

cough up "Phoenix" & "Diablo" as well!!!

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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

The moss is for the hide box, not your water pipe!

You must be high if you think I'm letting any of those three go anywhere!!

Pos het hypo male "Thing"

High Red SA-PO-06 "Phoenix"

High Red PE-M5-03 "Diablo"

Hope you like the pics Frank! That's as close as you're ever gonna get. Unless of course you come to CA and visit, but you're gonna have to sign a consent form first. One for a full strip search upon leaving. I'll hire somebody to do that dirty work!

Three more pics of Pheonix, I have got to take better pics of him and Diablo, these pics just don't do them justice!!

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
14.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

When you breed those "high reds" ( "Phoenix" & "Diablo" ) to a high red female put me down for a male. I will pay out the A$$ for it for sure. Things bloodline is a little outa my league at the moment but maybe by the time he breeds = who knows life's circumstances by then. Thanks for the pics. I have to get some pics of the high red I got from Jeff, if he seen it he'd be kicking himself in the a$$ for sure , shes 2.6 pounds, I probably will have her heavy enough to breed next season "
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

Yeah, I'm thinking about line breeding Pheonix back to his Mother Savannah, That should produce some stunning babies!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
14.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

when you do that let me know... I will want a male for sure, I guess you noticed "Eve" is a high red het for hypo, double Punch, when you step in "sh$T", you realy step in it lol
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

Ok, I'll put you on the long range wish list.

Wow, you're right ...she is high red and het hypo, possibly het stripe as well, that is if the stripe is genetic....a guy can dream! Whatever will I do with her? She is a nasty little beotch. Has not tagged me yet but not for the lack of trying.

Seriously, this is exactly where I wanted to be, so many choices all under my roof. I can now mix and match at will. As I find pairings that produce stunning babies, I can "lock" those pairings in to produce more and more.

Think about it this way, if Gomez and Gen were to have babies some hypo, some striped, even some striped hypo. Do you think I'd ever breed her to something else? Not until I had something I'd prefer to breed her to, like another striped hypo or work the Anery gene into the mix.

I now have 48 BRB's. Enough to easily only breed the females every other year or two out of three for the stunning ones. A few years from now I'll probably be selling off some of my lesser normals and produce better and better babies. This is soooo cool. I finally know what I want to be when I grow up!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
14.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

LOL, oh yeah the stripe as well, slipped my mind, I know, you knew the "I guess you noticed" comment was sarcasm. Keep me on the wish list, I am a patient man!
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

prolly a lot of stunning babies and that batch would sell out before they were almost laid I would imagine. Getting one of those babies or two would be like getting invited to Hugh's mansion I will strip search Frank for one of those too Dave I am also looking forward to Daisey's next few litters and do you plan on sticking Porky back on her or switching it up a little next year?
Bob

That would be the plan, a whole litter of stunners!!

That all depends, I do plan on switching things around. Just have to wait and see what works. As I find pairings that really work, may lock them in. Not that I couldn't unlock it later to try something else.....
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
14.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Cool comparison shots. Can't wait to see how they develop.
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