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baby Jax update (actually downdate)

alanvines Aug 12, 2003 07:20 AM

Well its a wonder the count didn't go up to 50 babies. There was a hole in the screen I didnot see but the neonates did. I was counting the same ones over, lol. I don't know how many got out when the little cage was hanging outside but when they got outin the greenhouse I thought I kept finding new babies. There are 14, five of which look in my limited experience to be female. I know I have been going crazy lately but this is rediculous, lol. So the tiny female Kermit had four and the other red had 10, unless I find more escapees today, lol.

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lele Aug 12, 2003 08:34 AM

so did they only escape into the greenhouse and not outdoors? funny you were counting the same ones! LOL

lele

>>Well its a wonder the count didn't go up to 50 babies. There was a hole in the screen I didnot see but the neonates did. I was counting the same ones over, lol. I don't know how many got out when the little cage was hanging outside but when they got outin the greenhouse I thought I kept finding new babies. There are 14, five of which look in my limited experience to be female. I know I have been going crazy lately but this is rediculous, lol. So the tiny female Kermit had four and the other red had 10, unless I find more escapees today, lol.

alanvines Aug 12, 2003 09:12 AM

I imagine a few escaped outside since thats where I put their cage in the mornings, I will be looking around outside for little chams probably til the first freeze. I lost a fischer's outside several years ago and used a spotlight to look for him every night for a month and never found him til all the leaves were off the trees and it had come a really hard freeze. He was hanging on a limb, dead, at the very top of an elm, freshly dead I might add. He lived through alot of cold weather. I know he lived through alot of cold because when I got his body down he still looked alive, good colors, not stiff, no sign of decay. It had frosted several times and actually got down to freezing point a couple of times before I found him, but warmed up alot during the day, It took a hard freeze to kill him. By the way chameleons glow at night under a spotlight.

lele Aug 12, 2003 09:21 AM

>>I imagine a few escaped outside since thats where I put their cage in the mornings, I will be looking around outside for little chams probably til the first freeze. I lost a fischer's outside several years ago and used a spotlight to look for him every night for a month and never found him til all the leaves were off the trees and it had come a really hard freeze. He was hanging on a limb, dead, at the very top of an elm, freshly dead I might add. He lived through alot of cold weather. I know he lived through alot of cold because when I got his body down he still looked alive, good colors, not stiff, no sign of decay. It had frosted several times and actually got down to freezing point a couple of times before I found him, but warmed up alot during the day, It took a hard freeze to kill him. By the way chameleons glow at night under a spotlight.

chamsrcool Aug 12, 2003 10:44 AM

i lost a jackson earlier this year the weather has been in his favor so far but i still cant find him i know that he is in five specific trees becuase he would have to walk on the ground to get to the woods or any other trees for that matter.

you say they glow in a spot light?....I have a 1 million candle light spot light.....its a cheapy thing from Sam's club
(wallmart only with wholesale/bulk items)but what did you use.

since mine is a jacksons i thought he would last until the leaves are gone and we could save him....

chamsrcool Aug 12, 2003 10:45 AM

try to look at bushes and trees in the morning when the chas would be trying to warm up mabe you will find a few.

alanvines Aug 12, 2003 11:17 AM

>>try to look at bushes and trees in the morning when the chas would be trying to warm up mabe you will find a few.

I dont think I lost any outside, I had them hanging on a wire covered with kudzu and I think I would have noticed one out there, they just pop out to me I've got to where I spot them instantly when there is one in the greenhouse, but I do keep looking, and you are right about in the morning. thank you for your help buddy.

alanvines Aug 12, 2003 11:07 AM

You can find him with a spotlight, as well as various greensnakes, katydids, and anoles-but the teptiles have a yellowish glow that is hard to miss. You will be suprised how far he may be from ground zero. I have lost large Jackson's before and they were always easy to find at night, usually under 20 feet from the ground. {The Fischer's apparently like it very high in the canopy}. It may take a few nights. Changing the angle of the spotlight alot helps pick out the color better. Good Luck!!! If you have a female not gravid {are they ever not gravid? lol) you could put her out in a cage where he could see and put a branch or thick rope from where you think he is to her cage. From what I read Jackson's have a very high tolerance for cold weather, better than Fischer's, and the latter lasted through alot of cold cloudy days and cold nights indeed.
A little off subject but have you ever read about Senegal or common chameleon (chamaeleo chamaeleo) actually hybernating or going dormant in tree cavities? I cannot remem where I read that and can't find it to save my life.

>>i lost a jackson earlier this year the weather has been in his favor so far but i still cant find him i know that he is in five specific trees becuase he would have to walk on the ground to get to the woods or any other trees for that matter.
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>>you say they glow in a spot light?....I have a 1 million candle light spot light.....its a cheapy thing from Sam's club
>>wallmart only with wholesale/bulk items)but what did you use.
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>>since mine is a jacksons i thought he would last until the leaves are gone and we could save him....
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http://briefcase.yahoo.com/alanvines2002
2.5 Jacksonii Xantholophus (two red phase fem}
14 Jacksonii Xantholophus neonatals (red-phase mothers)
2 Phelsuma M. Grandis
2.3 Anolis C. with 2 neonates
1 neonate texas blue spiny

alanvines Aug 12, 2003 11:11 AM

>>You can find him with a spotlight, as well as various greensnakes, katydids, and anoles-but the teptiles have a yellowish glow that is hard to miss. You will be suprised how far he may be from ground zero. I have lost large Jackson's before and they were always easy to find at night, usually under 20 feet from the ground. {The Fischer's apparently like it very high in the canopy}. It may take a few nights. Changing the angle of the spotlight alot helps pick out the color better. Good Luck!!! If you have a female not gravid {are they ever not gravid? lol) you could put her out in a cage where he could see and put a branch or thick rope from where you think he is to her cage. From what I read Jackson's have a very high tolerance for cold weather, better than Fischer's, and the latter lasted through alot of cold cloudy days and cold nights indeed.
>> A little off subject but have you ever read about Senegal or common chameleon (chamaeleo chamaeleo) actually hybernating or going dormant in tree cavities? I cannot remem where I read that and can't find it to save my life.
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>>>>i lost a jackson earlier this year the weather has been in his favor so far but i still cant find him i know that he is in five specific trees becuase he would have to walk on the ground to get to the woods or any other trees for that matter.
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>>>>you say they glow in a spot light?....I have a 1 million candle light spot light.....its a cheapy thing from Sam's club
>>>>wallmart only with wholesale/bulk items)but what did you use.
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>>>>since mine is a jacksons i thought he would last until the leaves are gone and we could save him....
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>>http://briefcase.yahoo.com/alanvines2002
>>2.5 Jacksonii Xantholophus (two red phase fem}
>> 14 Jacksonii Xantholophus neonatals (red-phase mothers)
>> 2 Phelsuma M. Grandis
>>2.3 Anolis C. with 2 neonates
>> 1 neonate texas blue spiny
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http://briefcase.yahoo.com/alanvines2002
2.5 Jacksonii Xantholophus (two red phase fem}
14 Jacksonii Xantholophus neonatals (red-phase mothers)
2 Phelsuma M. Grandis
2.3 Anolis C. with 2 neonates
1 neonate texas blue spiny

chamsrcool Aug 12, 2003 12:52 PM

so you think the 1 million candle light thingy i have will work or are you talking about the square spotlights? also the cham is in a clump of five trees and the nearest tree is a few feet away but that is one branch in the air which would only touch together during tornados or something. on ground its about 30 feet away.

so you think he would stay pretty low in these trees (they are very tall)

i'll try to find the candle power thing online and show you...

why would the reptile glow yellow? i'll try it on my anoles!!!

alanvines Aug 12, 2003 07:24 PM

I think your light will work, I always used a 150w halogen, the little spot light. I dont know why they glow yellowish, I guess it is greenish yellow, but they do really stand out against everything else, kinda like a street sign at night.
I would try the closest tree first.

>>so you think the 1 million candle light thingy i have will work or are you talking about the square spotlights? also the cham is in a clump of five trees and the nearest tree is a few feet away but that is one branch in the air which would only touch together during tornados or something. on ground its about 30 feet away.
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>>so you think he would stay pretty low in these trees (they are very tall)
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>>i'll try to find the candle power thing online and show you...
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>>why would the reptile glow yellow? i'll try it on my anoles!!!
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http://briefcase.yahoo.com/alanvines2002
2.5 Jacksonii Xantholophus (two red phase fem}
14 Jacksonii Xantholophus neonatals (red-phase mothers)
2 Phelsuma M. Grandis
2.3 Anolis C. with 2 neonates
1 neonate texas blue spiny

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