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What makes a hypo honduran a hypo? Is it codominant? Does anyone know of a good site wich explains how to make a hybino, ghost, snow and other morphs? Thanks!

You can find all your answers on my west coast hondurans site.Its on the front page of Kingsnake.

Shannon

Looked for a "page" but felt like was getting a run around... after all, this is where one goes for answers on forum.

Hypo(hypomelanistic)....literally means......greatly reduced melanin(dark pigmentation...e.g. the below pictured snake's pigment is not only greatly reduced, it is "extremely reduced", earning them the "coined" name "extreme" hypo Honduran.

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Hypo in this case is short for HypoMelanistic.. Hypo means low or lack of. Hypo is the oppisite of Hyper.. Hyper means high or more of somthing.. Melanin referes to the dark coloration of hair or skin. It can be said that a blond haired person has less melanin in their hair than a person with black hair.

When refering to reptiles Hypo is reffering to the degree of melanin (or dark coloration) that is visible in their skin..

Hypo
Prefix meaning "low, under, beneath, down, below normal" as in hypocalcemia (low calcium in the blood), hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) and hyposensitivity. The opposite of hypo- is hyper-.

mel•a•nism
1 Dark coloration of the skin, hair, fur, or feathers because of a high concentration of melanin

~ Mike Russo

DMong & MikeR,
Gold Star to expert answers to enlightenment! Know you're the reason we're here! Thanks for promoting the passion! I now know I don't have a hypo tangerine because it has black bands!

It can still be a "hypo", and have jet black banding!(just not an "extreme" hypo)... hypomelanism can be expressed in a reduction of coloration, and/or pattern(thin black bands).....but if yours is a young snake that shows any sign of "black tipping" on the scales, then it is NOT a hypo.....a PERFECT example of a "normal hypo" is on a post down a ways on this same page, ...............it is extraordinarily "clean" with absolutely ZERO "black tipping(even as an adult!)...this will give you a good visualization of what a prime example of hypo looks like!..the hypo I'm referring to is down a little ways on this page by "Tspuckler" in a post captioned "Any Ideas???" this should help clear things up for you...........Doug
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Neither of you answered THE question. Is it "Co-dominent" or "Recessive". I think the Extreme Hypo is actually the "Dominent" coloration for the mutation. "Hypos" may be the het form of the "Co-dominence" taking on many variations. If you don't mind let's us the Pastel Ballpython in which the "het" form is a visual morph but the "Super" (which by the way is what the extreme hypo used to be referred to by Mr. Dunham) is the Dominent mutation.

>>Neither of you answered THE question. Is it "Co-dominent" or "Recessive". I think the Extreme Hypo is actually the "Dominent" coloration for the mutation. "Hypos" may be the het form of the "Co-dominence" taking on many variations. If you don't mind let's us the Pastel Ballpython in which the "het" form is a visual morph but the "Super" (which by the way is what the extreme hypo used to be referred to by Mr. Dunham) is the Dominent mutation.
I only responded to the later one, since both people asked "what is a hypo?".....in any case, hypomelanism in Hondurans is RECESSIVE,....I'm not sure how some of the mutations "work" in "BPs", but rest assured, it is recessive in Milksnakes, and it also has many varying degrees of coloration, and pattern,and combinations of both!. It can be expressed as simply an exceptionally "clean" animal with zero tipping, to an "extreme" hypo that has a "vanished" pattern(VP),or VERY light gray bands,pin-banded,or even virtually patternless!.Like I stated before, the most drastic forms of hypomelanism in "milks" is the "extreme" bloodline were it is so reduced, the eyes are "ruby-red"....in addition, not ALL "extreme" breedings necessarily make all "extremes", and the degree of hypomelanism can vary from individual to individual in any given clutch...This is something that as of yet is not fully understood......hopefully this explains the "hypo" part of the post........as to how to make a "hybino", they are a combination of two mutations,..hypo x albino(amel)...the "ghost" is again, made with two mutations, them being.."hypo"x anerythristic...and the "snow" is a combo of albino(amel)x anerythristic........hope this helped to understand it a little better................Doug
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Are you saying if you breed an Extreme to another Extreme you do not get 100% Extremes?
Could it be that low grade Extremes are just really hard to tell apart from high grade regular Hyros?
I have heard the low grade Super Salmon Boas are hard to distinguish from high grade regular Salmon Boas.
The easy was to find out if it's codominant would be to breed a for sure Extreme to a for sure normal Hondo. If it's codominant you should get some hypos in the first breeding.

Forget the Boa genetics!,...this is NOTHING like the co-dominant thing with BOAS!,....it's an absolutely 100% recessive gene!...An "extreme", and a normal, will make ALL HETS for hypo(not het for "extreme". And like I said before...two "extreme" breedings will NOT necessarily guarantee ALL "extremes",but will give you better odds at having them, but they WILL all be very much HYPO!(to varying degrees)There is very strict "criteria" as to what constitutes an "extreme" hypo, and many people tend to "over-use" the word for anything that is unusually light-colored.........nice "looking" hypos from "extreme" clutches, can, and do produce a percentage of "extremes" within a clutch. Mike Falcon, who produced the first "extreme" hypo, has the exact definition of what constitutes an "extreme" on this website .....> members.toast.net/barrssnakepit/

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